Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

secundarización

English translation:

'secondarization'

Added to glossary by Patricia Rosas
May 13, 2006 21:14
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Spanish term

secundarización

Spanish to English Social Sciences Economics migration
From a Mexican text:

Lo importante a destacar de semejante plataforma de exportación es que, lejos de implicar una “secundarización” del sector, implica la exportación de mano de obra sin que salga del país (Tello, 1986), esto es, una exportación indirecta de fuerza de trabajo.
Proposed translations (English)
3 'secondarization'
4 relegation
2 secondarization

Discussion

Lia Fail (X) May 13, 2006:
See more TOL (thinking out loud) below:-)
Patricia Rosas (asker) May 13, 2006:
terciarización = outsourcing Just another thought: An Eng.-speaking audience might not know the term "terciarización/tertiarization" so "secondarization" would not make sense. I get about 10K hits on Google for tertiarization, but it isn't an English word (per Merriam-Webster's). On the other hand, for this particular audience, they probably do use "tertiarization" so "secondarization" wouldn't look too strange (and quotation marks would help). Sorry, now I'm thinking out loud!
Patricia Rosas (asker) May 13, 2006:
very good interpretation! Lia: thanks very much for your comments below (and sorry for not answering sooner--I fell asleep!). On your questions: Yes, this is talking about the manufacturing economy. I'm not an economist, but the rest of your interpretation also sounds right to me. The point is that Mexicans remain in Mexico to work, but the macroeonomic ripple effect of that employment is just as undesirable as if they had emigrated (I hadn't thought about it in terms of value-added, but I think that's another angle from which to interpret what is happening). THANKS!!!!
Lia Fail (X) May 13, 2006:
(contd) ...primary products rather than directly (i.e. a worker who emigrates to the USA) ...forgive my thinking aloud, but please confirm if this is the gen idea of the text:-)
Lia Fail (X) May 13, 2006:
Another Q: when they say "exportación de mano de obra sin que salga del país", are they referring to cheap labour for relocated industries (eg, textile cos that relocate from USA to Asia...). So, labour is exported in the form of value added to (contd)
Lia Fail (X) May 13, 2006:
Hola P:-) Hay sectores primario (de extracción, materia prima etc), secundario (fabricación, etc) y tertiario (los servicios). ¿¿¿¿¿Esta relacionado con este idea de 'secondario'????

Proposed translations

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'secondarization'

“Ello se reflejaba en su creciente participación en las exportaciones de manufacturas, modificando la especialización tradicional de la Periferia en productos primarios. Por otra parte, las transformaciones sociales e institucionales impulsadas por esta “secundarización” del desarrollo económico a nivel interno de tales países fueron diagnosticadas como constituyentes claros de la modernización.”

The above is taken from < see below >, and yes, this seems to be a word coined in Mexican economic theory.

Peripheral economies (i.e. lesser developed economies) traditionally produce primary products (=> primary sector), not manufactured goods (=> secondary sector ), however, these economies have moved into exporting manufactured goods, and thus have become ‘secondarized’, i.e. as economies they have progressed from being based on the primary sector to being based on the secondary sector; in fact use of the term ‘secondarization’ indicates a definite evolution from one state to the other….

I think you could use ‘secondarization’ with comillas, as for example, you will see lots of examples of ‘tertiarization’…so it’s not a huge existential leap for the reader….

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-05-13 23:38:38 GMT)
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TOL:

I get the impression from the extract that the text is aimed at people who know something of economics (eg, the ref to Tello implies an academic text), in which case, they would be as familiar as me - at least - with the notions of primary/secondary/tertiary sectors of teh economy - a division which by teh way, is a basic economic principle i.e. any 17 yo studying economics will study this concept on day one:-) )

There are around 900 hits for 'tertiarization' + 'economy'. No it may not be in MW, but what does that mean (if MW is like the DRAE, for example, or is simply not updated frequently).These concepts (tertiarization, and now secondarization) are only as old or less old than globalization.....and oddly enough, MW does NOT have the economic meaning of tertiary.

* That portion of a region's economy devoted to service activities (eg, transportation, retail and wholesale operations, insurance).
www.geographic.org/glossary.html

* This is provides services, such as retail shops and transport. In most developed countries the tertiary sector is now the largest sector of the economy.
www.maximumedge.com/encyclopedia/Society/Economics/Producer...

* The tertiary sector of industry, also called the service sector or the service industry, is one of the three main industrial categories of a developed economy, the others being the secondary industry (manufacturing and primary goods production such as agriculture), and primary industry (extraction such as mining and fishing).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_sector


Note that I don't agree that tertiarization is outsourcing, although it may be A meaning, I wdn't say it was a primary one.....and if you check a few of the first hits in Google, you will see refs to services, manufacturing etc, not outsourcing.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Lia, Thanks for all the good TOL. You are absolutely correct that this text was written by economists, for economists (and other social scientists). Thanks to all your comments, I think I finally understand: First, the primary sector is mining and agriculture; the secondary is industrial (manufacturing); and tertiary is services. So, the author is saying that rather than seeing a strengthening of the secondary sector within the Mexican economy ("secondarization"), the labor pool is being exported -- without ever leaving the country! Thanks again for your help and extensive notes.... (And thank you, too, to Cristina and Lidia.)"
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secondarization

Not sure though. There are entries of this word in Google, but definitively it was a made up word in Spanish.
Let's see if other colleagues have some ideas.
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relegation

This is another synonym.
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