Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
dépassée à la baisse
English translation:
drop to or below
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French term
United Kingdom
BA(Hons), Dip Trans IOL, MCIL London
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, English
dépassée à la baisse
French to English
Tech/Engineering
Engineering (general)
gas transmission - capacities
– la température du jour est inférieure à la température moyenne journalière susceptible d’être statistiquement atteinte ou dépassée à la baisse plus de 20 jours par an, au risque 2 %.
.....is lower than the average daily temperature statistically likely to be reached or ?????more than 20 days per year, with a 2 % risk ???
I really can't think how to say 'dépassée à la baisse' here! Can anyone help?
.....is lower than the average daily temperature statistically likely to be reached or ?????more than 20 days per year, with a 2 % risk ???
I really can't think how to say 'dépassée à la baisse' here! Can anyone help?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +2 | drop to or below |
Bourth (X)
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| 3 | below the minimum |
Jennifer Levey
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| 4 -1 | lower than the minimum |
RealBlunt
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| 4 -1 | totally reword |
Richard Benham
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| 3 -1 | exceed the minimum average |
morphidae
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Proposed translations
+2
38 mins
Selected
drop to or below
The day's temp. is lower than the mean daily value that the temperature is statistically likely to drop to or below more than 20 days per year ... Not sure how the 2% risk fits in. Is it the risk that it WILL or WILL NOT drop to or below that value? For more or less than 20 days? Context will tell, presumably.
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I think I have to go with the agreement on this one... and it is probably the best, most obvious way of saying what it means. Richard's arguments very helpful in particular. Thanks to all contributors."
-1
46 mins
exceed the minimum average
I allowed myself to reformulate the english sentence, hoping it would be of any help.
(...)is inferior to the daily average temperature and it's susceptible to be statistically reached or even to exceed the minimum average more than 20 days per year, with a 2% risk.
(...)is inferior to the daily average temperature and it's susceptible to be statistically reached or even to exceed the minimum average more than 20 days per year, with a 2% risk.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Richard Benham
: This does not make a lot of sense, and to the extent that it does, the sense is dead wrong!
1 hr
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4 hrs
Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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108
below the minimum
My reading:
... la température du jour est inférieure à la température moyenne journalière susceptible d’être statistiquement atteinte ou dépassée à la baisse plus de 20 jours par an, au risque 2 %.
-->
... the day-time temperature is below the statistical mean of all daily temperatures, or below the minimum day-time temperature attained on more than 20 days per annum, subject to a 2% margin of error.
Note that 'du jour' means 'day-time' (as opposed to 'night-time'), not merely to 'the day' or 'daily'.
... la température du jour est inférieure à la température moyenne journalière susceptible d’être statistiquement atteinte ou dépassée à la baisse plus de 20 jours par an, au risque 2 %.
-->
... the day-time temperature is below the statistical mean of all daily temperatures, or below the minimum day-time temperature attained on more than 20 days per annum, subject to a 2% margin of error.
Note that 'du jour' means 'day-time' (as opposed to 'night-time'), not merely to 'the day' or 'daily'.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Gustavo Silva
6 hrs
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| disagree |
Richard Benham
: I believe you are right about the reference to the daytime temp (which is how I was interpreting it), but the logic of your answer has no relation to the original.
9 hrs
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11 hrs
lower than the minimum
As lower than the minimum value registered, as in
http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/act/0102....
http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/act/0102....
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Richard Benham
: There is no suggestion of this in the original. The minimum is not even mentioned!
4 days
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-1
2 hrs
Richard Benham
France
France
Native in English
Works in field
France
When quality counts
Native in: English 
Works in: German to English, French to English, English
Related KudoZ points
:
6
totally reword
"the day temperature is below the temperature t such that the statistical likelihood of the average daily temperature's being less than or equal to t for more than 20 days of any given year is 2%".
The logic of the original is quite clear, but the expression is all over the shop. The term "dépassée à la baisse" is "exceeded" in the other direction ("inceeded"? "exceeded downwards"?). As no English equivalent springs to mind (and the original is terrible anyway), a paraphrase is called for. There might be a way to do it without introducing a variable, but don't hold your breath!
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Note added at 13 hrs (2008-05-02 13:02:40 GMT)
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The thing is here it's about two things. It is about the actual daytime temperature (presumably today), compared with a certain reference temperature (the temperature "t" above).
This looks like a condition of some sort (say in a contract or tender), and what it amounts to is "It's a cold day for the location".
The logic of the original is quite clear, but the expression is all over the shop. The term "dépassée à la baisse" is "exceeded" in the other direction ("inceeded"? "exceeded downwards"?). As no English equivalent springs to mind (and the original is terrible anyway), a paraphrase is called for. There might be a way to do it without introducing a variable, but don't hold your breath!
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Note added at 13 hrs (2008-05-02 13:02:40 GMT)
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The thing is here it's about two things. It is about the actual daytime temperature (presumably today), compared with a certain reference temperature (the temperature "t" above).
This looks like a condition of some sort (say in a contract or tender), and what it amounts to is "It's a cold day for the location".
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
RealBlunt
: completely desagree...argument...spelling simple words...yes milord...any way I think your theories may be interesting ...but "dépassée" doesn't mean drop. Dépassée means "under", not drop to
4 days
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Apart from being unable to spell simple words in English, do you actually have an argument?
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