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avec sa particule

English translation: Nobiliary particle

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French term or phrase:avec sa particule
English translation:Nobiliary particle

06:26 Aug 11, 2016
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French to English translations [PRO]
Poetry & Literature
French term or phrase: avec sa particule
Ils y gagnèrent un titre de noblesse qui se perdit avec sa particule dans les remous du XIXe siècle.

Book about a family of silk makers in Lyon. Talks about the various high-level positions they held in Lyon, including that of provost of merchants.
EileenF
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Nobiliary particle
Explanation:
Particule onomastique as in e.g. Le Sire de Porhoet, Le Vicomte de Donges.
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3 +5Nobiliary particle
DLyons
4the aristocratic form
Margaret Morrison


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Nobiliary particle


Explanation:
Particule onomastique as in e.g. Le Sire de Porhoet, Le Vicomte de Donges.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobiliary_particle
DLyons
Ireland
Local time: 08:10
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
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agree  Sheri P
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  -> Thanks Sheri.
agree  Tony M: Although this is of course technically correct, I somehow doubt it would be used in the same register as the original, which is often used quite informally.
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  -> Thanks Tony. True.
agree  Daryo
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agree  Carol Gullidge
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agree  patrickfor: Oui ! as a side note "la particule" is not always a sign of nobility and vice versa.
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  -> Thanks Patrick.
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33 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the aristocratic form


Explanation:
"along with the aristocratic form of their name "De X" in the tumult of the 19th c"

It's where a family name is ennobled with a "de" in front of it eg plain Mr Montfort becomes "De Montfort"

Example sentence(s):
  • "Le Docteur deRalet, fier de sa particule"

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=YT1cTl827LEC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=fier+de+sa+particule&source=bl&ots=HiAuQC8mAu&sig=f-goL99_GDSX3u2utOZsr
Margaret Morrison
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:10
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
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