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Thread poster: Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz
Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz
Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 11:37
English to Polish
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Jul 29, 2013

Hi, Staff. I've just seen this today:

The budget entered for this job is below the rates charged by at least 80% of ProZ.com members for this pair and currency.


I really appreciate what you have done. It takes courage to go against the trend and do something like that when you have outsourcers as your paying clients.

Thank you.
 
writeaway
writeaway  Identity Verified
French to English
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Notice has been around for a long time Jul 29, 2013

Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz wrote:

Hi, Staff. I've just seen this today:

The budget entered for this job is below the rates charged by at least 80% of ProZ.com members for this pair and currency.


I really appreciate what you have done. It takes courage to go against the trend and do something like that when you have outsourcers as your paying clients.

Thank you.


This warning is nothing new. It's been around for quite a while and appears where appropriate/applicable.
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 10:37
Member (2007)
English to Portuguese
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If my memory Jul 29, 2013

serves me right, it has been around since 2010!
 
Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz
Łukasz Gos-Furmankiewicz  Identity Verified
Poland
Local time: 11:37
English to Polish
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TOPIC STARTER
How come I haven't seen it yet? Jul 29, 2013

It can't be that I haven't seen a peanuts job in all the time. Then again, I stopped being an active user in 2009 and only came back this spring.
 
Christine Andersen
Christine Andersen  Identity Verified
Denmark
Local time: 11:37
Member (2003)
Danish to English
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But thanks are due all the same Jul 29, 2013

Perhaps even more so if it has been there for several years.
 
Anton Konashenok
Anton Konashenok  Identity Verified
Czech Republic
Local time: 11:37
French to English
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The notice is rare indeed... Jul 29, 2013

...but not because lowball offers are rare - it's just that most outsourcers don't specify any offered rates at all.
 
Jeff Whittaker
Jeff Whittaker  Identity Verified
United States
Local time: 05:37
Member (2002)
Spanish to English
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Suggestion in 2006 Jul 29, 2013

http://www.proz.com/forum/prozcom_suggestions/54852-suggestions:_minimum_rate_no_multiple_profiles-page2.html#413230

"When posting a job, outsourcers would receive a pop-up message stating:

"WARNING. The rate you are offering for Hungarian to English translation is .04 below the average of .xx fo... See more
http://www.proz.com/forum/prozcom_suggestions/54852-suggestions:_minimum_rate_no_multiple_profiles-page2.html#413230

"When posting a job, outsourcers would receive a pop-up message stating:

"WARNING. The rate you are offering for Hungarian to English translation is .04 below the average of .xx for H>E translators on Proz. As a result, this may limit the number of quotes you receive...."

Likewise, translators responding to such jobs would receive a pop-up message stating:

"WARNING. The rate you are quoting for Hungarian to English transation is .04 below the average of .xx for H>E translators on ProZ in [insert translator's country of residence]."

This solution removes the problem of the perception of ProZ as a "dumping ground" for cheap projects, helps to prevent new translators from being unknowingly taken advantage of, and reinforces my initial statement that translators set their own rate - not the outsourcers. Site averages would increase as translators get work at higher rates and then increase their own rates.

Of course this presupposes that the average rates here are not .02 or .03 a word. "

[Edited at 2013-07-29 14:11 GMT] ▲ Collapse
 
Edward Vreeburg
Edward Vreeburg  Identity Verified
Netherlands
Local time: 11:37
Member (2008)
English to Dutch
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does not stop bottomfeeders from trying... Jul 30, 2013

so, it's nice to see, and confirms what you are thinking :"OMG, are they crazy to think I work for these kind of rates...",...
 


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