Attaching files when replying to jobs
Thread poster: Dmitrie Highduke
Dmitrie Highduke
Dmitrie Highduke  Identity Verified
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Mar 9, 2010

Hi all,

I think this feature would be useful (I mean attaching files when replying to jobs), as sometimes we need to enclose CV, translation samples, etc.

Don't you think so?


 
Sheila Wilson
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Absolutely Mar 9, 2010

I couldn't agree more, Dmitrie. Attach a CV is the most normal thing in the world and it's strange that we can't do it.

 
Jared Tabor
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Let's see... Mar 9, 2010

Hi Dmitrie and Sheila,

Let me have a look at this and see what can be done. I assume we are talking about jobs which are using the "Submit quote" feature, since members see the direct email and have the option to do this when replying directly via email to a job, correct?

At least one aspect to be kept in mind would be whether the job poster is requesting/accepting this sort of attachment. Another might be whether a CV has been uploaded to the quoter's profile, as chanc
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Hi Dmitrie and Sheila,

Let me have a look at this and see what can be done. I assume we are talking about jobs which are using the "Submit quote" feature, since members see the direct email and have the option to do this when replying directly via email to a job, correct?

At least one aspect to be kept in mind would be whether the job poster is requesting/accepting this sort of attachment. Another might be whether a CV has been uploaded to the quoter's profile, as chances are the job poster, while checking out quotes for a given job, visits the quoter's profile, where everything (including a CV) can be reviewed-- maybe the option to include a direct link to a profile CV in the quote submission form? This can be done, manually at the moment, by opening the CV file in your profile, copying the URL, and including it in the message-- the reader can then follow this link straight to your CV online. Would something like this, made a bit easier, work?

Jared
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José Henrique Lamensdorf
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Three options Mar 9, 2010

Jared,

I suggest you offer three options on the bid (via Proz).

Q: Attach CV?

1. No.

2. Yes, the one uploaded to Proz

3. Yes, from external URL: _________________________

... and have that external URL saved to the member's profile as default, but leave it overwriteable.

There is a chance that some translators will have their CVs in various languages. Then it would be up to you to devise a way for them to
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Jared,

I suggest you offer three options on the bid (via Proz).

Q: Attach CV?

1. No.

2. Yes, the one uploaded to Proz

3. Yes, from external URL: _________________________

... and have that external URL saved to the member's profile as default, but leave it overwriteable.

There is a chance that some translators will have their CVs in various languages. Then it would be up to you to devise a way for them to select which one. Maybe a drop-down list on the external link field.

One useful feature would be to let job posters actually request CVs. If the member selects "No" above, a reminder might pop up.

Just my 2¢.
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Jared Tabor
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Nice Mar 9, 2010

Hello José,

Your 2¢ is worth a lot more than that. Great!

I will check this out and make sure everything is doable and post back. Thanks.

Jared


 
Heinrich Pesch
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Rather not Mar 10, 2010

This sending of CVs is a nuisance. Who ever reads them? I would keep this feature out when applying through the system. If they want a file attached, they can post their mail address, as they mostly do already.

Regards
Heinrich


 
Tomás Cano Binder, BA, CT
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I agree with Heinrich - Don't add more features to the process Mar 10, 2010

Heinrich Pesch wrote:
This sending of CVs is a nuisance. Who ever reads them? I would keep this feature out when applying through the system. If they want a file attached, they can post their mail address, as they mostly do already.

I also like the system as it is today. Outsourcers are already swamped with quotes in most cases. Swamping them with CVs along with the quotes will not help, and if they really need a CV they can ask for it specifically and only from the people they find interesting.

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Jalapeno
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... Mar 10, 2010

I was tempted to quote for a job yesterday, but the outsourcer specifically requested a CV. I couldn't see his e-mail address, and since there's no option to upload files via the "Submit quote" feature, I could't post for the job ...

 
Samuel Murray
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Alternatively Mar 10, 2010

José Henrique Lamensdorf wrote:
I suggest you offer three options on the bid (via Proz).


Alternatively, allow the job poster to have this choice:

Q: Allow translators to send attachments in their bid^H^H^Hquotes?
1. Yes
2. No

... and "no" should be ticked by default. Then, if the job poster had elected to allow attachments, translators can attach whatever they like (including CVs).

What would be nice is if the job poster can also specify the maximum file size to be attached, i.e. when he selects "Yes", a number field ungreys itself where the job poster can fill in the maximum kilobyte file size (default of say, 200).


 
Ahnan Alex
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Your CV is enough Mar 10, 2010

Hi pal!

I don't know whether or not it applies the same to your country. If I want to submit my application to agents or some companies to offer my services in term of cooperation or taking order, I prefer sending a usual email with CV and supporting scans of certificates. It really works! Some agents from India and Hong Kong also accept my application well. I think that it's necessary for you to send the samples of files if the agents or clients really need them as their email inbo
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Hi pal!

I don't know whether or not it applies the same to your country. If I want to submit my application to agents or some companies to offer my services in term of cooperation or taking order, I prefer sending a usual email with CV and supporting scans of certificates. It really works! Some agents from India and Hong Kong also accept my application well. I think that it's necessary for you to send the samples of files if the agents or clients really need them as their email inbox is so abundant that makes them ignore some unimportant emails. They don't have much time to download some files in one email. So, CV is actually preferred not the samples. : )
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José Henrique Lamensdorf
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It's an option Mar 10, 2010

Heinrich Pesch wrote:
This sending of CVs is a nuisance. Who ever reads them? I would keep this feature out when applying through the system. If they want a file attached, they can post their mail address, as they mostly do already.


Heinrich,

Sometimes I see job posts requiring bid via Proz (only) and CV to be sent by e-mail to a given address. Talking about nuisances, I feel kinda sorry for whoever has to match those bids with the corresponding CVs, considering that some applicants may forget to send either one.


 
Dmitrie Highduke
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Why read CVs? Mar 10, 2010

Heinrich Pesch wrote:

This sending of CVs is a nuisance. Who ever reads them? I would keep this feature out when applying through the system. If they want a file attached, they can post their mail address, as they mostly do already.

Regards
Heinrich


CVs don't really matter for outsourcers who base their choice on "best rates". But for those taking professional skills into account, CV is the best way to get information about a translator.

However, an outsourcer may choose whether he wants to receive attachments or not.


 
Dmitrie Highduke
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...my task is to provide... Mar 10, 2010

Ahnan Alex wrote:

Hi pal!

I don't know whether or not it applies the same to your country. If I want to submit my application to agents or some companies to offer my services in term of cooperation or taking order, I prefer sending a usual email with CV and supporting scans of certificates. It really works! Some agents from India and Hong Kong also accept my application well. I think that it's necessary for you to send the samples of files if the agents or clients really need them as their email inbox is so abundant that makes them ignore some unimportant emails. They don't have much time to download some files in one email. So, CV is actually preferred not the samples. : )


Dear Ahnan,

Samples were just for example, I was talking about CV mainly. However, my task is to provide the documents that may be of use, and the outsourcer's task is to download the files or not.


 
Deborah Workman
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Add my vote for a CV upload option Mar 10, 2010

Samuel Murray wrote:
... allow the job poster to have this choice:

Q: Allow translators to send attachments in their bid^H^H^Hquotes?
1. Yes
2. No


I am for this. I don't want to post my CV on my profile, but when I quote directly for a job, if the poster requests a CV I would like an easy way to submit mine. I do realize that a few job posters prefer that the CV be submitted inline with the bid in TXT format, but for those who will accept a file in DOC or PDF format, having the option to upload would be great for bidders.

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Dmitrie Highduke
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Outsourcers' Opinions Mar 15, 2010

It would be interesting to know what outsourcers themselves think about it. Dear outsourcers, do you need this feature? Would it be useful for you?

 


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