| Pages in topic: [1 2] > | Firefox v. Chrome Thread poster: Stanislaw Czech, MCIL CL
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Hi,
I had to stop today using Firefox which is my favourite browser (favourite or not it kept crashing my computer every half an hour or so and I really don't have time for another reinstallation of Vista), I am using now Chrome and while I miss all these add-ons, plugging and most of all Google toolbar I am definitely impressed by how fast this browser is.
Over the time I got used to slow responses of Firefox (increasing after installation of each new extension) I even... See more Hi,
I had to stop today using Firefox which is my favourite browser (favourite or not it kept crashing my computer every half an hour or so and I really don't have time for another reinstallation of Vista), I am using now Chrome and while I miss all these add-ons, plugging and most of all Google toolbar I am definitely impressed by how fast this browser is.
Over the time I got used to slow responses of Firefox (increasing after installation of each new extension) I even begun to believe that it is fault of the operating system rather than Firefox, but I must admit that using Chrome is very positive experience.
It is fast and I am even beginning to like its clean (emptish) interface.
I wonder what are your opinions?
Best Regards
Stanislaw ▲ Collapse
| | | | Adam Łobatiuk 
Poland
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| Call me paranoid | Sep 16, 2009 |
But I stay away from everything that comes from Google, except the search engine. Their products are great, but it just so happens that by using them, you make all your data and information about yourself available to that company: think Google Desktop (your local computer files), Gmail (your mail), Translator Toolkit (your translations), Documents (your work), Calendar (your schedule), or tracking your searches and what you watch on YouTube (when logged in). And now you have a web browser from ... See more But I stay away from everything that comes from Google, except the search engine. Their products are great, but it just so happens that by using them, you make all your data and information about yourself available to that company: think Google Desktop (your local computer files), Gmail (your mail), Translator Toolkit (your translations), Documents (your work), Calendar (your schedule), or tracking your searches and what you watch on YouTube (when logged in). And now you have a web browser from the same company...
I recommend Opera - it is more difficult to configure ad blocking, but otherwise it's great and fast too. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Shai Navé
Israel
Local time: 02:54
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| Try to create a new profile | Sep 16, 2009 |
Chrome is great if you don't mind being probed by Google. The most annoying thing to me is the fact that they don't even bother to admit or publish the fact that they collect information about you. Only 3rd party tests show how frequent Chrom is actually "calling home", and other privacy concern issues.
To try and solve you FireFox problem I would suggest running it in Safe mode, maybe one of your extension causes the crashes that you experience. If this is the case I would consider creati... See more Chrome is great if you don't mind being probed by Google. The most annoying thing to me is the fact that they don't even bother to admit or publish the fact that they collect information about you. Only 3rd party tests show how frequent Chrom is actually "calling home", and other privacy concern issues.
To try and solve you FireFox problem I would suggest running it in Safe mode, maybe one of your extension causes the crashes that you experience. If this is the case I would consider creating a new profile (Start> Run> "FireFox -profilemanager")C
Chrome is built on the chromium source code. If you like Chorme's functionality but concerned about the privacy issue you can try to use Iron or Chromium (both are a "stripped" version of chrome without the privacy issues - please not however that some of Chrome's features, such as the autosuggestion, might not work on these versions. For example the autosuggestion feature connects to Google's servers to populate the suggestions) - read http://www.ghacks.net/2009/04/19/google-browser-google-chrome-and-chromium-download/ for more information.
By the way, as Adam has said, Opera is a great Browser as well that doesn't get enough attention for some reason. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Paul Daubreu (X)
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| Yet another "paranoid" | Sep 17, 2009 |
Adam Łobatiuk wrote:
I recommend Opera - it is more difficult to configure ad blocking, but otherwise it's great and fast too.
Hi Adam,
glad to see that I am not the only "paranoid" on this forum, but too much of Google is just too much . I am staying with Opera 9.64 for the moment (Opera 10 is kind of funny with its Turbo and Unite add-ins, got to give it a try later) and also use Safari 4.0.3 and Firefox 3.5.3. Oh by the way: I work on a Mac, so there is no way of downloading / using Chrome... But I can say that my previous experience with Chrome on a PC was not overwhelming. It is, like Google themselves advertise it, a minimalist browser.
What's honestly the need of using a browser created by and for the greatest known personal data harvester on the Web?
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Lianne Wilson
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| Underrated... | Sep 17, 2009 |
Shai Nave wrote:
By the way, as Adam has said, Opera is a great Browser as well that doesn't get enough attention for some reason.
Wow, other people besides me are recommending Opera! Hurrah!
As you say, it's woefully underappreciated, which is a shame as it's by far my favourite and easily competes with the others in pretty much any aspect of the program.
I personally find it much more user-friendly and much faster than Firefox. Don't even get me started on IE. I'd say you couldn't pay me to use that thing, but unfortunately it's what I'm forced to use in the office!
| | | | | From another happy Opera user | Sep 17, 2009 |
Paul Daubreuil wrote:
I am staying with Opera 9.64 for the moment (Opera 10 is kind of funny with its Turbo and Unite add-ins, got to give it a try later)
I am using Opera since version 7 and I would say 10 is one of the best Opera builds. At least this is the first new release that made me let go the "Opera classic" skin...:)
| | | | | A happy Chrome user! | Sep 17, 2009 |
Indeed my experience with Chrome is a very positive one. I use it for everything and all the time. It had a couple of glitches (for instance when writing in some forms like this one we use for our discussions) in its earlier releases, but now it works beautifully.
ONE FOR THE PARANOIDS: Yes, I know, I know. Google is now the leading consumer IT company and has replaced Microsoft in our paranoia. Why do we always need to have this paranoia about the big companies? Who is nurturing th... See more Indeed my experience with Chrome is a very positive one. I use it for everything and all the time. It had a couple of glitches (for instance when writing in some forms like this one we use for our discussions) in its earlier releases, but now it works beautifully.
ONE FOR THE PARANOIDS: Yes, I know, I know. Google is now the leading consumer IT company and has replaced Microsoft in our paranoia. Why do we always need to have this paranoia about the big companies? Who is nurturing this paranoia all the time? It never ceases to amaze me. Now, having said that: in Chrome, you can disable any feedback to Google about your browsing patterns, searches, and anything. Disabling feedback is simple and has clear options in the interface. In fact, when you install Chrome the checkbox to send feedback to Google is DISABLED by default.
AND ANOTHER ONE FOR THE PARANOIDS: Isn't distrust towards Google perhaps some kind of psychological reaction to the fact that Google helps us translators so much without having to pay a penny? It reminds me of the situation we have all experienced: we dump our hearts onto a friend in times of trouble, crisis or sadness... and from that moment we dislike seeing that friend! We are strange beings indeed! ▲ Collapse
| | | | Samuel Murray
Netherlands
Local time: 01:54
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| Please check, Tomás | Sep 17, 2009 |
Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:
Now, having said that: in Chrome, you can disable any feedback to Google about your browsing patterns, searches, and anything. Disabling feedback is simple and has clear options in the interface. In fact, when you install Chrome the checkbox to send feedback to Google is DISABLED by default.
The big gripe that I've been reading about is the fact that Chrome keeps a cache of secure web pages and also keeps a local index of it. My own browser caches non-secure web pages not but secure ones (I think). The gripe is that you can search your own history on Chrome for things like your bank details. This information is usually safe from hackers because it comes to you via a secure web site -- but the security is gone if your browser keeps a local copy of it in a place on your hard drive where a hacker (or trojan, or virus) can access it.
So please check, Tomás, for us. Visit sourceforge.net (or some other site that uses secure connections), create a new user name, and then log in with that user name until you have a secure connection (HTTPS). Visit one or two pages on that site, and then open a new tab. Then open the history and do a keyword search for words on the Sourceforge site. Try this exercise with a few sites, such as your bank's web site (when you log in to do internet banking). Does Chrome's history search function remember the information on those sites?
I look forward to the results of your experiment.
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| Paranoia or not... | Sep 17, 2009 |
The truth is that all the IT information of all kind can be spyed. That's it.
If you send a mail, your ISP can read it. This is why yo can read your mails not only from your email-client, but from your mail-server too.
Bear in mind: All the Internet is supported by only 13 central servers. This means that all the traffic of Internet of any kind can be controlled by who controls these 13 central servers. So, it is quite indifferent if you use Firefox, Chrome or a self-made b... See more The truth is that all the IT information of all kind can be spyed. That's it.
If you send a mail, your ISP can read it. This is why yo can read your mails not only from your email-client, but from your mail-server too.
Bear in mind: All the Internet is supported by only 13 central servers. This means that all the traffic of Internet of any kind can be controlled by who controls these 13 central servers. So, it is quite indifferent if you use Firefox, Chrome or a self-made browser... ▲ Collapse
| | | | Rob Edwards
Local time: 00:54
Member (2008)
German to English
| Definitely Firefox over Chrome | Sep 17, 2009 |
When I first installed Chrome I was very impressed I have to say, as it was quick and the size of the viewing panel was large. However, I have switched back to Firefox now as subsequent releases of Chrome just seemed quite buggy with pages freezing, taking a long time to load and/or crashing the browser altogether.
Also, the thing that makes Firefox great is all the add-ons such as Web Developer or FasterFox. I love these add ons and am always discovering new and useful tools.
... See more When I first installed Chrome I was very impressed I have to say, as it was quick and the size of the viewing panel was large. However, I have switched back to Firefox now as subsequent releases of Chrome just seemed quite buggy with pages freezing, taking a long time to load and/or crashing the browser altogether.
Also, the thing that makes Firefox great is all the add-ons such as Web Developer or FasterFox. I love these add ons and am always discovering new and useful tools.
That said, I like many other people it seemd feel that Opera definitely deserves a mention. It is fast, reliable and has some great features, not least the page zoom feature... ▲ Collapse
| | | | diana bb
Lithuania
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| Happy with Chrome | Sep 17, 2009 |
Tomás Cano Binder, CT wrote:
Indeed my experience with Chrome is a very positive one. I use it for everything and all the time.
So do I.
Diana
| | | | | A very valid point | Sep 17, 2009 |
Samuel Murray wrote:
So please check, Tomás, for us. Visit sourceforge.net (or some other site that uses secure connections), create a new user name, and then log in with that user name until you have a secure connection (HTTPS). Visit one or two pages on that site, and then open a new tab. Then open the history and do a keyword search for words on the Sourceforge site. Try this exercise with a few sites, such as your bank's web site (when you log in to do internet banking). Does Chrome's history search function remember the information on those sites?
As usual Samuel you have raised a very valid red flag. I appreciate that you took your time for this.
I have checked in relation to my bank account and Paypal account and have determined that A) the contents of my bank's website is not searchable from the history; B) some Paypal terms still seem to be in the history but Paypal correctly forces me to do a proper login if I try to access a history page.
Indeed I must research this in more detail. In any case, I am not very worried about PayPal as I rarely keep a penny there!
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Laurent KRAULAND (X)
France
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| How different we can be... | Sep 18, 2009 |
Stanislaw Czech wrote:
It is fast and I am even beginning to like its clean (emptish) interface.
I wonder what are your opinions?
Best Regards
Stanislaw
Hi Stanislaw,
this only shows how different we can be. I to the contrary like add-ins and other "gimmicks" very much (could not do without them, I think), and to support what has been said before, Opera IMHO is even "better" than Firefox.
[Edited at 2009-09-18 06:35 GMT]
| | | | Stanislaw Czech, MCIL CL
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:54
Member (2006)
English to Polish
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TOPIC STARTER SITE LOCALIZER | Not so different after all | Sep 18, 2009 |
Laurent KRAULAND wrote: Hi Stanislaw, this only shows how different we can be. I to the contrary like add-ins and other "gimmicks" very much (could not do without them, I think ), and to support what has been said before, Opera IMHO is even "better" than Firefox. [Edited at 2009-09-18 06:35 GMT]
As I said I miss all the extra features of Firefox - actually most likely I will reinstall the OS over the weekend - but using Chrome made me realize that all extra features come at a price.
The more additional plug-ins you add to Firefox, the slower it's going to work.
Btw. the beta version of Chrome already allows usage of plug-ins and there is a growing community of programmers creating them; still I am going to wait for final release.
Best Regards
Stanislaw
| | | | Laurent KRAULAND (X)
France
Local time: 01:54
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| Careful with plug-ins | Sep 18, 2009 |
Stanislaw Czech wrote:
The more additional plug-ins you add to Firefox, the slower it's going to work.
Btw. the beta version of Chrome already allows usage of plug-ins and there is a growing community of programmers creating them; still I am going to wait for final release.
Best Regards
Stanislaw
Very true, indeed. I am being and still am very careful with plug-ins, as I always have to fight the temptation of saying "The more, the better"....
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