| Pages in topic: < [1 2 3 4 5] > | It is now possible to "flag" KudoZ answerers Thread poster: Enrique Cavalitto
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| I have no wish to be automatically tracked | Mar 15, 2009 |
Hi Enrique,
I understand the positive thought behind this feature, but I have no wish to be automatically tracked by someone else without knowing who does that.
If a colleague is interested in my answers, this can be done by visiting my profile and/or from any of my answers back to my profile.
Enough information about myself are available there and it is already possible to check which answers I have provided from any of my answers.
... See more Hi Enrique,
I understand the positive thought behind this feature, but I have no wish to be automatically tracked by someone else without knowing who does that.
If a colleague is interested in my answers, this can be done by visiting my profile and/or from any of my answers back to my profile.
Enough information about myself are available there and it is already possible to check which answers I have provided from any of my answers.
Even though I have nothing to hide, as Florence also said, I have no wish to have a virtual detective breathing on my neck. Please allow some privacy.
Please I kindly ask for an opt-out option ASAP.
Giuliana
P.S. And my ability to track others' answerers can be stripped in the very moment I'll opt out. I have no wish to become that invasive of other individuals' "privacy". Stumbling on me is fine, I go public with any posting and any KudoZ, but tracking my movements and delivering them in a private notification is too much.
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| | | | | Violation of privacy | Mar 15, 2009 |
Hello Enrique and all,
I personally hope some elements are well thought and designed, in order to make sure this feature does not violate my privacy. I hope that the tracked kudozer is announced with an email when some one decides to track him/her.
In any case, I opt out. I would not like to be tracked, for no reason in the world. I may participate in more then one language combination, and the "tracker" may wor... See more Hello Enrique and all,
I personally hope some elements are well thought and designed, in order to make sure this feature does not violate my privacy. I hope that the tracked kudozer is announced with an email when some one decides to track him/her.
In any case, I opt out. I would not like to be tracked, for no reason in the world. I may participate in more then one language combination, and the "tracker" may work only in one of them, but besides this, it is a very uncomfortable feeling to know that some one tracks all your kudoz activity! You must be kidding me!
Just as Giuliana says, I am flattered but there it is my profile, if you want to follow my "expertise", you may as well:
1) Ask if you can track this or that colleague;
2) If permission not granted, you may have to invest some time to track the kudoz where this member participates. This feature already exist and it is much more privacy & socially & professionally ecological and correct.
I would appreciate it very much if some one could explain if and how can I opt out from being tracked, before some one decides to do so.
Many thanks and kind regards to all,
Fabiana
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| | | | | Same for me! | Mar 15, 2009 |
Giuliana Buscaglione wrote:
Hi Enrique,
I understand the positive thought behind this feature, but I have no wish to be automatically tracked by someone else without knowing who does that.
If a colleague is interested in my answers, this come be done by visiting my profile and/or from any of my answerer to my profile.
| | | | Aniello Scognamiglio (X) 
Germany
Local time: 17:56
English to German
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Aniello Scognamiglio wrote:
Thanks for this!
I have reconsidered my decision.
Please give me the possibility to opt out of this "feature" for the reasons mentioned by other colleages.
I also realized within only 24 hours that by tracking only 20 colleages I will have tons of emails to read or delete.
Thanks for your understanding,
Aniello
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Steffen Walter
Germany
Local time: 17:56
Member (2002)
English to German
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| Mixed feelings about the feature | Mar 15, 2009 |
Hi all,
While I initially thought this to be a good move, the arguments of Giuliana, Fabiana and Aniello re. privacy and email traffic have prompted me to change my mind. At the very least, as the feature has already been implemented, please do add an opt-out possibility to all those not wishing to get tracked.
Steffen
| | | | | Another vote for "opt-out" function | Mar 15, 2009 |
While I understand that others may view this as a learning opportunity, I would certainly appreciate being able to opt out of this feature, since I also view this as an invasion of privacy.
Regards,
Austra
| | | | Enza Longo
Canada
Local time: 11:56
French to English
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| another vote for the "opt out" option | Mar 15, 2009 |
I don't see the true value of this feature and understand why many will feel that this type of tracking is almost akin to stalking..
[Edited at 2009-03-15 12:48 GMT]
| | | | diana bb
Lithuania
Local time: 18:56
English to Lithuanian
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| One more vote for opting out | Mar 15, 2009 |
From the description, I find this feature somewhat Orwellian.
Nothing more to add, really.
Diana
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Kristina Kolic
Croatia
Local time: 17:56
English to Croatian
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SITE LOCALIZER | I fail to see any privacy issue here | Mar 15, 2009 |
Sorry, but I really do not see any privacy issue here. We all have a profile that is visible to all, visitors and members alike, and which, by the way, contains information about us that are more private or sensitive than any other disclosed in any of our postings on the site.
All KudoZ answered and asked by a particular user or member can already be accessed and viewed via such user's or member's profile and therefore I do not see any problem with anyone flagging me as a KudoZ ans... See more Sorry, but I really do not see any privacy issue here. We all have a profile that is visible to all, visitors and members alike, and which, by the way, contains information about us that are more private or sensitive than any other disclosed in any of our postings on the site.
All KudoZ answered and asked by a particular user or member can already be accessed and viewed via such user's or member's profile and therefore I do not see any problem with anyone flagging me as a KudoZ answerer or asker (option made available earlier), since the information that such a "flagger" would then have access to would be exactly the same as the information that is already available when visiting a profile on ProZ.com.
As to e-mail notifications, it is a fact that their number will increase if you decide to flag a KudoZ answerer of asker, as it will also increase if you decide to track a forum thread, to be notified of KudoZ or job posts in your language pair, etc. It is our personal choice to decide whether to flag someone and therefore receive e-mail notifications, or not. If we do not wish to receive such e-mail notifications, we just have to refrain from flagging or tracking. By the way, RSS feeds have been made available for forum threads and job posts and have also been announced for KudoZ, which should significantly decrease the number of e-mail notifications ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Another vote to opt out | Mar 15, 2009 |
The idea of being tracked isn't appealing.
| | | | | Conceptual difference | Mar 15, 2009 |
Hi Kristina,
Kristina Mijic wrote:
Sorry, but I really do not see any privacy issue here. We all have a profile that is visible to all, visitors and members alike, and which, by the way, contains information about us that are more private or sensitive than any other disclosed in any of our postings on the site.
the difference is conceptual.
When you sit in a restaurant, everyone there or popping by chance in is informed that you are there, but nobody receives an SMS reporting that you've gone out for dinner and you had pizza and a beer at xx.xx.
And in our profile we disclose as much as we wish. And these information are not sent to anybody by mail. They are publicly available, not public to be sent privately to an even more private individual. On the contrary, this piece of information about personal movements over the site is sent without any knowledge of the affected subject privately in a mail to an unknown individual.
Sorry, but this reminds me of stalking. Just to be sure there is no misunderstanding: I have neither reason to be "worried" about this feature nor to think many would be interested in my answers. I don't do KudoZ that intensively, have only provided answers in my very few pairs, in my only two fields, have no controversial history on my track and my participation has been veeery limited over the past 9 years. My "answering pattern" may be viewed on my profile for those interested, but I don't deliver it privately.
Giuliana
| | | | Özden Arıkan
Germany
Local time: 17:56
Member
English to Turkish
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| The idea does not even seem to have been discussed or received a meaningful* support | Mar 15, 2009 |
Without going into the merits and/or vices of this new feature, I want to discuss something that draws my attention here. My intention is not to go off topic, let me make it clear first.
[* The 'meaningful' in the title is strictly in the statistical sense of the word.]
As Enrique said in his message that has started this topic, the idea was suggested here about 5 weeks a... See more Without going into the merits and/or vices of this new feature, I want to discuss something that draws my attention here. My intention is not to go off topic, let me make it clear first.
[* The 'meaningful' in the title is strictly in the statistical sense of the word.]
As Enrique said in his message that has started this topic, the idea was suggested here about 5 weeks ago (February 9):
http://www.proz.com/forum/prozcom_suggestions/127144-suggestion_for_improving_kudoz:_flagging_answerers.html
There are 11 replies to the initial posting. If you take out staff responses, follow-up messages by the topic poster, one message posted as a general comment about Kudoz, and one other message posted to make another suggestion, there are only 3 (three) messages that support the initial suggestion (i.e. flagging of answerers).
Relying on my forum experience (which is not little in any way), I can tell that 5 weeks are long enough to know whether an idea is welcome by a meaningful proportion of active site members (active = interested and participating in site affairs). So, I have reason not to expect the situation in that topic to change dramatically in the days to come.
Considering all of the above, how much sense does it make to implement a suggestion that obviously has not received much attention, not properly discussed with its pros and cons, and has received only 3 people's support? Just a question, without going into the topic of many suggestions that have received far greater member support having been discussed with pros and cons, that have been repeated time and time again, and that may be waiting in the ToDo list or not...
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| Opt out, yes | Mar 15, 2009 |
OK, folks, an option to opt out will be made available.
| | | | | Please stick to the merits and/or vices | Mar 15, 2009 |
Özden Arıkan wrote:
Without going into the merits and/or vices of this new feature...
With respect, I would ask that you stick to the merits and/or vices of the feature in question. (Discussing whether or not something has been discussed sufficiently is the sort of thing that can muddle an otherwise results-oriented discussion.)
| | | | texjax DDS PhD
Local time: 11:56
Member (2006)
English to Italian
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| What year is it? | Mar 15, 2009 |
I hope this can be classified as "results-oriented" post..
[Edited at 2009-03-15 20:53 GMT]
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