filmpolitiska klimatet

English translation: cinepolitical climate; political climate for the film industry, film industry policy

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Swedish term or phrase:filmpolitiska klimatet
English translation:cinepolitical climate; political climate for the film industry, film industry policy
Entered by: Charlesp

08:04 Jun 19, 2013
Swedish to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
Swedish term or phrase: filmpolitiska klimatet
Ok. This works well in Swedish, but not so well in English.

It is clear what "filmpolitiska klimatet" means, but to translate it as "film political climate" sounds a bit odd to my ears.

Could say, the “political climate" concerning films, but that I think moves the emphasis.

Any ideas or comments?
Charlesp
Sweden
Local time: 00:15
cinepolitical climate
Explanation:
It is context dependent, but I would feel fairly comfortable generating my own term for this if there wasn't a way round it or a better solution. My proposed target term doesn't appear to be used with any significant frequency, but it's fairly clear to the reader what it is referring to. The problem is the words "cinema" and "politics" is that the reader (and google) think you're talking about political films - ie a film about Margaret Thatcher - rather than something more inherent.
Selected response from:

Ian Giles
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:15
Grading comment
Excellent made-up word.

"Political climate for the film industry" works, well too -- but not as a term.

Then there is "film industry policy,' which depending upon context, could also be appropriate.

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Summary of answers provided
2 +2cinepolitical climate
Ian Giles
4film industry policy
Anna Herbst
4 -2the climate of political cinema
Richard Green
3 -3the climate for political cinema
rajagopalan sampatkumar
Summary of reference entries provided
political climate (for the industry)
Deane Goltermann

Discussion entries: 3





  

Answers


1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +2
cinepolitical climate


Explanation:
It is context dependent, but I would feel fairly comfortable generating my own term for this if there wasn't a way round it or a better solution. My proposed target term doesn't appear to be used with any significant frequency, but it's fairly clear to the reader what it is referring to. The problem is the words "cinema" and "politics" is that the reader (and google) think you're talking about political films - ie a film about Margaret Thatcher - rather than something more inherent.

Example sentence(s):
  • The cinepolitical climate of time was difficult
Ian Giles
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:15
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Excellent made-up word.

"Political climate for the film industry" works, well too -- but not as a term.

Then there is "film industry policy,' which depending upon context, could also be appropriate.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks. Excellent idea. I am going to use this!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mats Wiman: Very good invention of yours!
1 hr

agree  Richard Green: Correct based on the context provided, and a nice term too!
1 hr

agree  rajagopalan sampatkumar
6 hrs

disagree  Anna Herbst: The term exists with different meaning: Godard/.../has pursued his cine-political explorations of the image" http://film-philosophy.com/index.php/f-p/article/view/704/61... and is a phenomenon in India http://jmionline.org/film_journal/jmi_01/article_03.php
23 hrs
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -3
the climate for political cinema


Explanation:
the climate for political cinema (films).

rajagopalan sampatkumar
Switzerland
Local time: 00:15
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mats Wiman: Misunderstood. No political films
30 mins

disagree  Richard Green: The same, incorrect answer as mine. See context provided by Charles.
41 mins

disagree  Anna Herbst: Nothing to do with political films
21 hrs
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1 day 30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
film industry policy


Explanation:
"Filmpolitik" is to do with government policy regarding the film industry and has nothing to do with "politisk film".
"Film industry policy" is a concept widely used in the English speaking world.
Your given sentence under Richard's answer could then translate:
"ett resultat av det allmänna filmpolitiska klimatet är att biodistributionen har blivit mer kommersiell" >>
"One result of the film industry policy in general is that the distribution of films has become more commercial"
As you can see, I have left out the word "klimatet" as I don't think it is necessary in the English version in order to achieve the same meaning as the original Swedish, and including it would make the sentence a bit unwieldy.

Example sentence(s):
  • This placing of film industry policy within the arts commitments of federal and state governments had definite effects upon the kind of actions that were possible.
  • Ivan Lewis MP and his team are doing a great job putting the effort in to get a coherent film industry policy.

    Reference: http://wwwmcc.murdoch.edu.au/ReadingRoom/film/AFTV.html
    Reference: http://www.savethebritishfilmindustry.com/2011/06/ivan-lewis...
Anna Herbst
Australia
Local time: 08:15
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SwedishSwedish, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 14
Notes to answerer
Asker: Excellent contribution. Thanks!

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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
the climate of political cinema


Explanation:
Just a suggestion if you wanted to turn the adjective of "filmpolitisk" into a noun, which I propose as "political cinema".

I think "political cinema" fits quite well since it includes, but is not exclusive to, propaganda, including other aspects of politics as well.

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Note added at 21 mins (2013-06-19 08:26:18 GMT)
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Ahh, I see Charles. Would you be able to post a couple of example phrases in the discussion section? Then I/we can see how it is used and give you a more accurate solution.

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Note added at 1 day42 mins (2013-06-20 08:46:45 GMT)
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No problem, Charles! Wait the 24 hours and award the points to Ian. I really like his answer. I just wish that those who disagree would read the course of events in the answer to understand my thinking, but not to worry!


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_cinema
Richard Green
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:15
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Richard. But I don't think this is referring to political cinema, as interesting and important as that is. I think it is referring to the politics around film; i.e the difficulties of getting funding, distribution and screening at movie theatres.

Asker: ett resultat av det allmänna filmpolitiska klimatet är att biodistributionen har blivit mer kommersiell,

Asker: I'll close this so that there are no more disagrees. By the way, I did like X, and Z, at the time.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mats Wiman: Misunderstood. No political films
2 hrs
  -> Context posted after suggestion made.

disagree  Anna Herbst: Nothing to do with political films
23 hrs
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Reference comments


3 hrs
Reference: political climate (for the industry)

Reference information:
Sorry, out for a morning and the world keeps working! But will add this after the fact for our mutual enlightenment.
Your idea was correct -- This has to do with what subsidies (forms and amounts) the gov't provides to the industry (production and distribution). This has nothing to do with 'political cinema' and you don't need to create a word for this.
See http://www.riksdagen.se/sv/Debatter--beslut/Debatter-och-bes...
Filmpolitiska frågor (KrU2)
Hösten 2012 kom staten och aktörer inom den svenska tv- och filmbranschen överens om ett nytt filmavtal för perioden 2013-2015. I avtalet behandlas bland annat frågan om stöd till svensk film. Regeringen föreslår att avtalets parter vid inkomstbeskattning även i fortsättningen får avdrag för de avgifter och bidrag som de enligt avtalet ska betala till Svenska Filminstitutet. Riksdagen sa ja till regeringens lagförslag men med ändring av ikraftträdande- och övergångsbestämmelserna'

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Note added at 5 hrs (2013-06-19 13:55:28 GMT)
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Sure enough, I like new words too! If it works go for it!

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Note added at 1 day2 hrs (2013-06-20 10:57:27 GMT) Post-grading
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Your welcome for the info, I'll take the 'cred' and try for the points next time!

Deane Goltermann
Sweden
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SwedishSwedish
PRO pts in category: 4
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks Deanne. That is a really great suggestion, "political climate for the film industry" , but I like cinepolitical climate even though that is a made-up word. Thanks also for the reference; great help.

Asker: If you don't post it as an Answer, you can't get any points. But I'll give you "extra credit" for the posting and all of the information included that. Thanks a lot; that was great (and helpful).

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