se sujeterá a los procedimientos ordinarios

English translation: shall be subjet to ordinary proceedings

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Spanish term or phrase:	se sujeterá a los procedimientos ordinarios
English translation:	shall be subjet to ordinary proceedings
Entered by:	Adriana de Groote

16:45 Jan 14, 2005

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)

Spanish term or phrase: se sujeterá a los procedimientos ordinarios

This has to do with a court trying violations such as trading or acting as financial intermediaries without due authorization. I think it means that the accused will be subject to a full trial as opposed to a summary hearing but would like to have this confirmed :)

I'm juggling with "full trial", "non-expedited trial" and the less descrptive and much more general "ordinary proceedings" although the last offering smacks of Spanglish.

All suggestions welcome and TIA

David Hollywood KudoZ activity Questions: 34 (none open) (1 closed without grading) Answers: 18075
Local time: 20:36

shall be subjet to ordinary proceedings

Explanation:
Ojalá te sirva. Te copio un sitio donde hablan de los "ordinary proceedings" que creo que está adecuado al caso.

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In ordinary proceedings there are two meetings of creditors. ... patrimonii for
further enforcement proceedings, but not for ordinary court actions, ...
www.schkg.ch/fachliches/betreibungsrecht/ swissdebt/tx_swissdebt.htm

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Note added at 13 mins (2005-01-14 16:58:58 GMT)
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Otros:

being filed the proceedings would continue as ordinary proceedings only ...
For ordinary proceedings such a provision would be a trigger for payment of ...
www.publications.parliament.uk/ pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmeuleg/42-xxxiv/4205.htm - 20k - En caché - Páginas similares

CCP 851 - [ Traduzca esta página ]
... ORDINARY PROCEEDINGS. TITLE I. PLEADING. CHAPTER 1. GENERAL DISPOSITIONS. Art.
851. Three modes of procedure; Book II governs ordinary proceedings ...
www.legis.state.la.us/lss_doc/ lss_house/CCP%5CDoc%20112270.html - 2

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Adriana de Groote
Guatemala
Local time: 17:36

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Thanks again to all and thanks to our faithful moderator for making this possible :)
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4 +6

shall be subjet to ordinary proceedings

Adriana de Groote

4 +2

will be subject to due process

Lesley Clarke

4 +1

Only for info

BAmary (X)

5 -1

it would be subjected to all ordinary procedures

Rantes

shall be subject to criminal procedure

horive

Discussion entries: 7

Answers

8 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): -1

se sujeterá a los procedimientos ordinarios it would be subjected to all ordinary procedures

Explanation:
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Rantes
Local time: 18:36
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Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 32

10 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

se sujeterá a los procedimientos ordinarios

shall be subjet to ordinary proceedings

Adriana de Groote
Guatemala
Local time: 17:36
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Spanish
PRO pts in category: 335

Grading comment

Thanks again to all and thanks to our faithful moderator for making this possible :)

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

se sujeterá a los procedimientos ordinarios will be subject to due process

Explanation:
I think this captures the idea.

Lesley Clarke
Mexico
Local time: 17:36
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

se sujeterá a los procedimientos ordinarios Only for info

Explanation:
Of course you should always consult a lawyer about this, but I believe "due process" means "following all the correct legal procedures", while "procedimeinto ordinario" is the general procedure applicable to all disputes that are not treated according to a special procedure. That's why I think they are not the same. You can talk a bout a "special procedure" for which you followed the "due process", i.e. the process required by law.

Sds.

BAmary (X)
Canada
Local time: 19:36
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Spanish
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7 hrs confidence:

se sujeterá a los procedimientos ordinarios shall be subject to criminal procedure

Explanation:
I like your idea of "full trial" as oposed to summary or extraordinary proceedings, but full trial would lack the specific connotation the term carries in spanish: There are "Procedimiento ordinario" and "procedimientos especiales o extraordinarios "; the former refers to the way a typical trial is carried out; the latter include summary procedures, special procedures for the mentally impaired, special procedures for underage offenders; Please find "TITULO DECIMO. - procedimientos especiales" on the link below.
In Mexico and some other Latin American countries they use "ordinario" to refer to the typical Court Trial, as opposed to "juicio extraordinario o especial", so you can translate Procedimiento (penal) ordinario for just criminal procedure. In my experience, the dichotomy (juicio ordinario/juicios especiales)does not exist in English, I mean you do not say "juicio penal ordinario", you just say criminal procedure.

Reference: http://www.edomexico.gob.mx/legistel/cnt/LeyEst_005.html

horive
Local time: 17:36
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Native speaker of:

Spanish,

English
PRO pts in category: 20

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