vymedzovať

10:16 Feb 18, 2010
Slovak to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. / ethnology
Slovak term or phrase: vymedzovať
Dear colleagues,

I am currently translating an academic article about ethnology in Slovakia during the period of Socialism. I am trying to understand the meaning of the verb "vymedzovať" within the following sentence.

"Máme na mysli smer prítomný v slovenskej etnológii viac-menej kontinuitne od 20. rokov 20. storočia, voči ktorému sa napríklad A. Melicherčík a jeho generácia vymedzovali."

I would appreaciate your suggestions on how this verb should be translated within the above context.

Thank you very much,

Myska
myska
Local time: 19:52


Summary of answers provided
4 +1define (oneself in relation to)
Dylan Edwards
4 +1to define (oneself against)/to self define (oneself against)
Slavomir BELIS
4delimit
Maria Chmelarova
3to be in contrast to
Igor Liba
3to qualify (oneself) against / for
Jan Szelepcsenyi, PhD
3to differentiate oneself from something
Uncle


  

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to differentiate oneself from something


Explanation:
It's a tricky one. This is how I'd translate it. Unfortunately, I have no proof that this is the best translation, except my "gut feeling". ;-)

Uncle
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to qualify (oneself) against / for


Explanation:
We show that the optimal mechanism discriminates against the informationally advantaged bidder to ensure truthful
or
Be a professional and Qualify your client or Qualify yourself

Na GOOGLI nájdete rad väzieb o "vymedzovaní seba samého voči niekomu/niečomu" so slovesom "qualify". Má to logiku: ak chcem seba vymedziť, musím sa "kvalifikovať", ak sa chcem vymedziť voči niekomu, musím jeho ohodnotiť.

Jan Szelepcsenyi, PhD
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define (oneself in relation to)


Explanation:
... in relation to which they defined themselves.

They took it (this current in thought) as a reference point, or, to be more precise, they defined themselves (their positions) in relation to it.

The aligned themselves with it or against it or in some way in relation to it.

Dylan Edwards
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agree  Pavel Slama: hmm, yes, but *against*
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delimit


Explanation:
"smer 20-ho str. voci ktoremu sa XY a jeho generacia vymedzovali"
cize postavili a (u)stanovili nieco, daco...
delimit - establish limits of, to set out or establish the limits or boundaries of something
delimit - stanovit hranice, ohranicit a vymezdit nieco ale aj daco, urcit rozsah (platnosti)

Maria Chmelarova
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to define (oneself against)/to self define (oneself against)


Explanation:
... smer... 20. storočia, voči ktorému sa napríklad A. Melicherčík a jeho generácia vymedzovali.
...the direction... 20th century, which A. Melichercik and his generation, for example, were defining themselves against.

Native examples of usage:
...and although one must define oneself against the homogeneity of the cultural milieu...
http://www.barcelonareview.com/rev/22.htm

The struggle to define oneself against stereotypes is something I feel very passionately about...
http://www.storiesfromtheweb.org/sfwolderarea/authorzoneinte...

or possibly
... smer... 20. storočia, voči ktorému sa napríklad A. Melicherčík a jeho generácia vymedzovali.
...the direction... 20th century, which A. Melichercik and his generation, for example, were self defining themselves against.

...there is a need for some to self define oneself against the majority Jewish view or status which...
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/01/how-to-appear-mad/

And I would use the past progressive tense (minulý čas priebehový) (were defining...) because their effort, which lasted a longer period of time, may or may not have been finished. In other words, this is what they were trying to do. They were trying to define themselves against something but it is not clear if eventually they succeeded in it or not.
vymedzili (the simple past tense) - defined themselves against something
vymedzovali - were defining themselves against something



Slavomir BELIS
Slovakia
Local time: 20:52
Native speaker of: Slovak
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agree  Pavel Slama: I think this is correct, to define oneself against something.
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