šiber

English translation: (air) rosette

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Serbian term or phrase:šiber – ventil za vazduh
English translation:(air) rosette
Entered by: Mirjana Svicevic

15:16 Aug 14, 2013
Serbian to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Mechanics / Mech Engineering
Serbian term or phrase: šiber
Radi se o delu peći na čvrsta goriva. To možda ima još neko ime, ali ga ja ne znam.
Mirjana Svicevic
Serbia
Local time: 11:34
(air) rosette
Explanation:
Šiber je u ovom slučaju zasun/ventil za vazduh u obliku rozete (ružice).

Dakle ovako, istraživanje sam bazirao na kotlu Viadrus U24 češkog proizvođača za čije je uputstvo Daryo dao link. U tom uputstvu se u tekstu pominje šiber, ali se on na slikama ne vidi. U stvari, vidi se, ali pod drugim nazivom - rozeta:

(str. 5) Rozeta za tercijalni vazduh
(str. 18) Prilikom korišćenja koksa, crnog ili mrkog uglja, neophodno je blago otvoriti rozetu na vratima ložišta za ulaz sekundarnog vazduha. Rozetu u zadnjem delu kotla treba blago otvoriti na 5 mm rastojanja, a između prvog članka i male pepeljare takođe postoji zazor od 5 mm zbog ulaza vazduha (u slučaju potrebe ovaj razmak treba povećati).


Poređenjem sa drugim verzijama ovog uputstva:
CZ - růžice - http://www.viadrus.cz/doc/cms_library/cz_viadrus_hercules_u2...
EN - rosette - http://www.viadrus.cz/doc/cms_library/gb_viadrus_hercules_u2...
RU - розетта/розетка - http://www.viadrus.cz/doc/cms_library/ru_viadrus_hercules_u2...
došao sam do engleskog izraza „rosette” koji je trebalo proveriti.

Evo par primera korišćenja u uputstvima za upotrebu kotlova jednog irskog i jednog američkog proizvođača:

(Na strani 10 ima lepa slika rozete.)
(str. 10) Supply of secondary combustion air is controlled by an air rosette (Fig. 08), situated in the boiler’s stoking door, which has a direct effect on the level of emission.
http://www.ecoangus.ie/ecoangus_images/max/Angus_Max_multi_f...

(Uputstvo je skenirano pa ne može da se pretražuje)
(str. 10) 24. Air rosette
(str. 12) The air rosette on the fill door should always be closed and tightened when burning wood.
(str. 13) Adjust the draft damper for desired combustion while viewing the fire through the open rosette. When the desired combustion is established close the rosette.

http://www.buderus.us/files/201001222003270.G131_IMO-1101.pd...
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Aleksander Vasiljevic
Serbia
Local time: 11:34
Grading comment
Hvala još jednom :)
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Summary of answers provided
5(air) rosette
Aleksander Vasiljevic
4hatch (door)
Mira Stepanovic
4sliding firebox door
Daryo


Discussion entries: 16





  

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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
hatch (door)


Explanation:
mislim da je greška u tekstu, "šiber" je sprava za računanje, "slide rule":
https://www.google.rs/search?q=šiber&client=firefox-a&hs=zSe...
Ovde bi trebalo da bude "šuber", tj otvor ili poklopac/vratanca koji taj otvor zatvaraju;
šuber -hatch, ref. Građevinski rečnik, B. Vukičević

https://www.google.rs/search?q=hatch definition&ie=utf-8&oe=...
1. An opening of restricted size allowing for passage from one area to another, in particular.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hatch
a. An opening, as in the deck of a ship, in the roof or floor of a building, or in an aircraft.
b. The cover for such an opening.

Od konteksta zavisi da li se misli na sam otvor ili na vratanca/poklopac tog otvora

http://www.narvi.fi/en/products--/fireplace-products--/other...
Cast iron kitchen stove and coal hatch doors


Mira Stepanovic
Serbia
Local time: 11:34
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in Serbo-CroatSerbo-Croat
PRO pts in category: 40
Notes to answerer
Asker: E to već ima smisla. Hvala :)

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
šiber (deo peći na čvrsta goriva)
sliding firebox door


Explanation:
"šiber" jeste sprava za računanje, "slide rule", ali se isto koriste i za klizna vratanca na pećima "sliding door"

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2.7. Kontrola i sigurnosni elementi
Sistem za regulaciju promaje reguliše ulaz vazduha u komoru za sagorevanje ispod kotlovske rešetke. Njega kontroliše regulator promaje ili ručno podešavajući zavrtanj na vratancima regulatora promaje na kotlu. Drugi regulator promaje (za dimenzije 8 – 10 članaka) reguliše protok vazduha na zadnjim vratancima. Šiber na vratima za loženje se koristi za ulaz sekundarnog vazduha u komoru za sagorevanje. Šiber u zadnjem delu kotla koristi se za ulaz tercijalnog vazduha, i mora da bude blago otvoren 3 - 5mm (u slučaju potrebe, ovaj otvor se može povećati) .
[http://www.portal-doo.eu/portalwps/wp-content/uploads/2010/0...]

"The improved chulha has a sliding firebox doors and chimney dampers to control air supply for combustion. During field trials, fuelwood savings of the order of ..."
[http://www.teriin.org/index.php?option=com_casestudy&task=de...]


"An exhibition quality model of a 3 ½" inch gauge Lord Nelson Class E Southern Railway 4-6-0 Locomotive and Tender 'Lord Howe' No 857, built by Mr A W G Tucker the copper boiler with fittings including water and pressure gauges, blower, injector, brake, whistle and clack valve. Cab detail includes twin arm regulator, reversing wheel, drain cocks, lever operated sliding firebox doors, folding doors and polished mahogany plank flooring Chassis details include twin outside cylinders with Walschaerts valve gear and twin inside cylinders, drain cocks, lubricator, eccentric driven feed pump and bypass, whistle, brake gear. Tender of double bogie design with fittings including hand operated feed pump,water cock, brake, steps, handrails and tool boxes.
The locomotive is finished in malachite green and black livery with 'Southern 857' to tender and having polished brightwork. Length 52 ½" Cab Width 6 ½" "
[http://www.dnfa.com/search.asp?view=keyword&keyword=||&noperpage=20&auction=13538&catname=Steam%20%26%20Model%20Engineering]



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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-08-14 18:18:16 GMT)
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jedan primer kamina s providnim kliznim poklopcem, slično "šiberu" na krovu automobila (Version with vertical sliding door with flat glass....)

http://www.archiexpo.com/prod/edilkamin/wood-burning-closed-...

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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-08-14 19:01:21 GMT)
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"Šiber u zadnjem delu kotla koristi se za ulaz tercijalnog vazduha, i mora da bude blago otvoren 3 - 5mm (u slučaju potrebe, ovaj otvor se može povećati)"
Mislim da ovo ukazuje na to da je "šiber" klizni poklopac (=> ovaj otvor se može povećati); klapna (koja se otvara oko osovine) je ili privremeno otvorena ili potpuno zatvorena, tj. klapne se ne ostavljaju trajno otvorene par milimetara.

Ako je pitanju manji otvor, moguća je i varijanta "sliding hatch".

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:34
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mira Stepanovic: Vaša ref.: http://www.portal-doo.eu/portalwps/wp-content/uploads/2010/0... pogledajte sliku, nigde nema kliznih vratanaca a "Šiber na vratima za loženje" je mali otvor (hatch) sa klapnom. Često se ne pravi razlika "šuber"/"šiber".
26 mins
  -> u nedostatku preciznijih podataka, ova je varijanta isto toliko verovatna kao i "šiber" = "šuber" = klapna
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
(air) rosette


Explanation:
Šiber je u ovom slučaju zasun/ventil za vazduh u obliku rozete (ružice).

Dakle ovako, istraživanje sam bazirao na kotlu Viadrus U24 češkog proizvođača za čije je uputstvo Daryo dao link. U tom uputstvu se u tekstu pominje šiber, ali se on na slikama ne vidi. U stvari, vidi se, ali pod drugim nazivom - rozeta:

(str. 5) Rozeta za tercijalni vazduh
(str. 18) Prilikom korišćenja koksa, crnog ili mrkog uglja, neophodno je blago otvoriti rozetu na vratima ložišta za ulaz sekundarnog vazduha. Rozetu u zadnjem delu kotla treba blago otvoriti na 5 mm rastojanja, a između prvog članka i male pepeljare takođe postoji zazor od 5 mm zbog ulaza vazduha (u slučaju potrebe ovaj razmak treba povećati).


Poređenjem sa drugim verzijama ovog uputstva:
CZ - růžice - http://www.viadrus.cz/doc/cms_library/cz_viadrus_hercules_u2...
EN - rosette - http://www.viadrus.cz/doc/cms_library/gb_viadrus_hercules_u2...
RU - розетта/розетка - http://www.viadrus.cz/doc/cms_library/ru_viadrus_hercules_u2...
došao sam do engleskog izraza „rosette” koji je trebalo proveriti.

Evo par primera korišćenja u uputstvima za upotrebu kotlova jednog irskog i jednog američkog proizvođača:

(Na strani 10 ima lepa slika rozete.)
(str. 10) Supply of secondary combustion air is controlled by an air rosette (Fig. 08), situated in the boiler’s stoking door, which has a direct effect on the level of emission.
http://www.ecoangus.ie/ecoangus_images/max/Angus_Max_multi_f...

(Uputstvo je skenirano pa ne može da se pretražuje)
(str. 10) 24. Air rosette
(str. 12) The air rosette on the fill door should always be closed and tightened when burning wood.
(str. 13) Adjust the draft damper for desired combustion while viewing the fire through the open rosette. When the desired combustion is established close the rosette.

http://www.buderus.us/files/201001222003270.G131_IMO-1101.pd...

Example sentence(s):
  • Supply of secondary combustion air is controlled by an air rosette (Fig. 08), situated in the boiler’s stoking door, which has a direct effect on the level of emission.
  • The air rosette on the fill door should always be closed and tightened when burning wood.

    Reference: http://www.ecoangus.ie/ecoangus_images/max/Angus_Max_multi_f...
    Reference: http://www.buderus.us/files/201001222003270.G131_IMO-1101.pd...
Aleksander Vasiljevic
Serbia
Local time: 11:34
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in HungarianHungarian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Hvala još jednom :)
Notes to answerer
Asker: Kolega Vasiljeviću, ovo je stvarno mazohistički iscrpno istraživanje :) Hvala vam mnogo :)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mira Stepanovic: Ne vidim svrhu poređenja kotla sa običnom peći na čvrsta goriva; rozeta je uvek okrugla (što se može videti na sl.) i regulacija se vrši obrtanjem a šiber/šuber je pravougaonog oblika.
7 hrs
  -> Uopšte nije važno šta ta reč inače (može da) znači, nego šta znači u ovom konkretnom slučaju. Ostaje nam da sačekamo objašnjenje Mirjaninog klijenta...

neutral  Daryo: isto mislim da je u pitanju je otvor koji reguliše dotok vazduha u gorionik; kako izgleda u ovom konkretnom slučaju – u obliku rozete ili je klizni poklopac - teško je reći bez crteža.
13 hrs
  -> Slažem se, čekamo razjašnjenje misterije :)
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