протестная активность

English translation: protest, ... are more likely to voice their discontent, demonstrativeness

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Russian term or phrase:протестная активность
English translation:protest, ... are more likely to voice their discontent, demonstrativeness
Entered by: Susan Welsh

21:18 Sep 21, 2016
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. / youth unemployment
Russian term or phrase: протестная активность
Does this refer to political protests, or to something a bit broader, such as unrest or discontent? The context is Russia and the text is academic. It's about a survey of university graduates, employers, etc., and how young people's skills don't match the jobs that exist out there in the real world. It has nothing to do with politics as such, so this comes (to me) sort of out of the blue.

Как показано в работах ряда российских социологов, нетрудоустроенная молодежь становится источником рисков и постепенно превращается в социально проблемный слой - прекариат (работников с неустойчивой занятостью - и, как следствие, потенциально повышенной протестной активностью).

Thanks!
Susan Welsh
United States
Local time: 12:20
... are more likely to voice their discontent
Explanation:
Of course Anton is right and you need to rephrase. When translating into English, English usage rules, and damn the original. When it's time for me to kick the bucket, these are probably going to be my last words - that is, if I keep on doing what I am currently doing for a living::)
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The Misha
Local time: 12:20
Grading comment
Thanks! Actually, I like a lot of the non-literal alternatives, but especially Ilan's simple "protest." By thus getting rid of the "activity" part, it takes it out of the domain of marching around with placards, which is what I was trying to avoid. And Misha, your explanation is, as usual (?) inspiring.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +7... are more likely to voice their discontent
The Misha
4 +4(increased, higher) protest activity
Tatiana Grehan
4 +2rephrase - see below
Anton Konashenok
4propensity to engage in protest activities
rns
3and potentially becoming more demonstrative// turning into an increasingly demonstrative group/
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.


  

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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
(increased, higher) protest activity


Explanation:
IMHO

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Note added at 13 mins (2016-09-21 21:31:39 GMT)
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По-моему, здесь "протестная активность" используется в самом широком смысле, поэтому предлагаю самый общий перевод.

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Note added at 1 hr (2016-09-21 22:31:37 GMT)
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I understand what you mean, Susan. But I doubt very much that Russian phrase "протестная активность" includes labour disputes. I believe "protest" is appropriate here.

Tatiana Grehan
United States
Local time: 12:20
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: You may be right that this is the best translation, but to my ear it is not the most general one, but rather more specific, meaning political (with the undertone, in Russia, of "anti-government"). I would not think of a labor dispute over pay or other grievances as "protest activity," for example.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Dmitry Goykhman
9 mins
  -> Спасибо, Дмитрий!

agree  Ravindra Godbole
3 hrs
  -> Thank you!

neutral  The Misha: Tatiana, you are right in principle, but can you really imagine someone saying this?
4 hrs
  -> I don't see why not...

agree  Alexander Ivashkevich
5 hrs
  -> Спасибо, Александр!

agree  David Knowles: Can't see what's wrong with this - more. likely to engage in protest activity
11 hrs
  -> Thank you, David!

neutral  Ilan Rubin (X): 'activity' is quite a literal translation, the word is used much less in English
12 hrs
  -> Спасибо!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
rephrase - see below


Explanation:
The problem with Tatiana's variant is that "активность" and "activity" are not exactly the same - the former is a state of (or a tendency to) being engaged in some process, while the latter is the process itself. The right word would be "activeness", but it is rather clumsy, so I'd propose "potentially more active in protesting" or, better yet, "potentially more active in expressing their grievances [publicly]".

Anton Konashenok
Czech Republic
Local time: 17:20
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Katerina O.
59 mins

agree  Erzsébet Czopyk
7 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
and potentially becoming more demonstrative// turning into an increasingly demonstrative group/


Explanation:
My few kopecks.

Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
United States
Local time: 12:20
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in PolishPolish
PRO pts in category: 8
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
... are more likely to voice their discontent


Explanation:
Of course Anton is right and you need to rephrase. When translating into English, English usage rules, and damn the original. When it's time for me to kick the bucket, these are probably going to be my last words - that is, if I keep on doing what I am currently doing for a living::)

The Misha
Local time: 12:20
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks! Actually, I like a lot of the non-literal alternatives, but especially Ilan's simple "protest." By thus getting rid of the "activity" part, it takes it out of the domain of marching around with placards, which is what I was trying to avoid. And Misha, your explanation is, as usual (?) inspiring.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lazyt3ch
2 hrs

agree  Erzsébet Czopyk: I love the explanation very-very-very much!
4 hrs

agree  El oso: "..are more prone to express discontent" /I can't cite any grammar rules to support my version for it's been a while since I had my last grammar lesson, but according to the know-it-all Google this sort of syntax is at least not unheard of, if not common
4 hrs
  -> Yes, except then the grammar changes a bit too, of course, prone to expressING

agree  Sofia Gutkin
5 hrs

agree  SergeyKuznetsov
6 hrs

agree  Ilan Rubin (X): Can also use the word 'protest' in a broad sense, but without 'activity'
7 hrs

agree  Tatiana Lammers
12 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
propensity to engage in protest activities


Explanation:
as in ‘have lower job security and hence a greater propensity to engage in protest activities’

usage examples:
- https://goo.gl/aN1pmB
- https://goo.gl/5F8gcH

‘job security’ from the Wikipedia entry on Precarity:

Precarity is a precarious existence, lacking in predictability, job security, material or psychological welfare. The social class defined by this condition has been termed the precariat.
-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precarity

rns
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 15
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