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Слова..."в том числе" толкуются без ограничений

English translation: The word "Including" shall mean "including, but not restricted to"

17:33 Nov 16, 2019
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
Russian term or phrase: Слова..."в том числе" толкуются без ограничений
Слова "включать", "включающий", "в частности" или "в том числе" толкуются без ограничений.

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Смущает то, что оборот "including, without limitation", иногда переводят "включая, в том числе...

Тогда получается, что "в том числе" и "без ограничений" - одно и то же...

the words "include", "including", "in particular" or "в том числе" shall mean without limitation;
responder
Russian Federation
Local time: 23:52
English translation:The word "Including" shall mean "including, but not restricted to"
Explanation:
Standard phrase
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David Knowles
Local time: 21:52
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Thank you, David!
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2The word "Including" shall mean "including, but not restricted to"
David Knowles
5"в том числе, без ограничений"
Aun
4см.
interprivate
4Включая, помимо прочего, ...
Vadim Zotov
3см.
Boris Kobritsov


  

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Explanation:
формулировка в русском, надо сказать, мутная.
мне первое, что пришло в голову, это:
...shall be interpreted in their broadest meaning
возможно, имеется в виду именно это.

Boris Kobritsov
Russian Federation
Local time: 23:52
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Native speaker of: Russian
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
"в том числе, без ограничений"


Explanation:
То есть, еще много чего может включено

Aun
Local time: 23:52
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PRO pts in category: 8
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
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Explanation:
such words as to include, including, particularly, or "inter alia/and specifically" shall be construed without any restriction in relation to their respective meaning(s)

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Note added at 1 hr (2019-11-16 19:13:30 GMT)
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Правильно ли я понимаю, что вы будете пытаться угадать, что было в англ. оригинале на основании русского перевода, выполненного кем-то?

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Note added at 1 hr (2019-11-16 19:18:39 GMT)
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Переубеждать - не моё дело, если это так. Whatever.

interprivate
Local time: 21:52
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 48
Notes to answerer
Asker: Все же налицо некий обратный перевод, и в английском оригинале наверняка было "without limitation"...

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Включая, помимо прочего, ...


Explanation:
Включая что-то, но не ограничиваясь этим что-то - в этом смысл слов without limitations.

Подходящие варианты:
- включая, помимо прочего,
- включая, но не ограничиваясь (этим включением, включением именно этого).

Vadim Zotov
Russian Federation
Local time: 23:52
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Native speaker of: Russian
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
The word "Including" shall mean "including, but not restricted to"


Explanation:
Standard phrase

David Knowles
Local time: 21:52
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 359
Grading comment
Thank you, David!
Notes to answerer
Asker: В таком случае смущающее "в том числе" надо опустить.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Oleg Lozinskiy: Why not "limited to"?
2 hrs
  -> No reason - they mean the same, but "restricted to" came into my head!
agree  Erzsébet Czopyk
3 hrs
  -> Thanks Erzsebet!
agree  DTSM
14 hrs
  -> Thanks DT SM!
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