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третье колено

English translation: third degree of kindred

09:49 Dec 21, 2009
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Genealogy
Russian term or phrase: третье колено
родственники до третьего колена
Natalja1980
Local time: 11:08
English translation:third degree of kindred
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Masha Haccoun
Israel
Local time: 11:08
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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3third degree of kindred
Masha Haccoun
5 +2relatives three times removed
Jack slep
3 +3third generation
Oleksiy Markunin


  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
third degree of kindred


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Masha Haccoun
Israel
Local time: 11:08
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 4
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rachel Douglas: "Of kindred" makes it refer to the people: "to marry someone within the third degree of kindred." For the relationship itself, it would be "third degree of kinship" or (more technical) "of consanguinity."
3 hrs
  -> Thank you. Frankly speaking, I didn't know that (about kinship).
agree  Alexandra Taggart: "you are a man!"-that what you've done - it's cool, impressive, something to be respected for (BE)
11 hrs
  -> Thank you, Alexandra
neutral  Jack slep: Rachel, please tell me, in the given case is this lineal or collateral consanguinity and of what degree? Or is it just "removed?....
15 hrs
agree  Alexandra Goldburt: I'm with Rachel on this one.
1 day 9 hrs
  -> Thank you and Rachel
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3 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
third generation


Explanation:
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Note added at 16 mins (2009-12-21 10:05:30 GMT)
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А если именно - ДО - третьего колена, то например - relatives up to the third generation

Oleksiy Markunin
Canada
Local time: 04:08
Native speaker of: Russian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nick Grekov (X)
3 mins
  -> Thanks!
agree  Alina EN-RU
7 mins
  -> Thanks!
agree  tschingite
2 hrs
  -> Thanks!
neutral  Jack slep: Why distinguish Колено from поколение unless there's a difference? Hate to resort to dictionaries but "Nov. Bol'.Rus.-Angl. Slov.," Родственники до пятого колена - cousins five times removed.
15 hrs
  -> Hm, what then? Колено - Разветвление рода, поколение в родословной/Поколение - Родственники одной степени родства по отношению к общему предку/Родословная - Перечень поколений одного рода, устанавливающий происхождение и степени родства/Род - Ряд поколени
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
relatives three times removed


Explanation:
See the following for the meaning of "removed":
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Cousin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In kinship terminology, a cousin is a relative with whom one shares a common ancestor. .... If it is one's great-grandmother, that is three generations. ... You are X cousins, Y times removed. If Y is zero (because the number of ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin - Cached -
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Genealogy - Free 10 Generation Relationship Chart
It's All Relative - Relationships Chart. To use the chart: 1. Find the relationship to the common ancestor for the ... Second Cousin Three Times Removed ...
www.iarelative.com/charts/ - Cached -
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It's All Relative !! Chart for computing cousins and
It's All Relative - http://www.iarelative.com. Relationship Calculator Chart - Czeching Our Our Ancestors - Searching ... Second Cousin Three Times Removed ...
www.iarelative.com/charts/rel_chart.htm - Cached -
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My Relative - Kinship Chart
First select the gender of yourself and your relative: ... Second Cousin Three Times Removed ... Fourth Cousin Three Times Removed ...
www.myrelative.com/html/kinship.html -

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Note added at 10 hrs (2009-12-21 20:08:15 GMT)
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I should have inserted "up to" three times removed

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Note added at 13 hrs (2009-12-21 23:25:29 GMT)
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The organisation [New England Historical Society] said it investigated the bloodlines of the three presidential hopefuls. One of the oddest is that Obama is related to Brad Pitt and Hillary Clinton to his partner, Angelina Jolie.

Clinton, who is of French-Canadian descent on her mother's side, is a distant cousin of Madonna, Celine Dion and Alanis Morissette. Other distant cousins include writer Jack Kerouac and Camilla Parker-Bowles.

Obama and President Bush are 10th cousins, once removed, linked by Samuel Hinkley of Cape Cod, who died in 1662. Pitt and Obama are ninth cousins, linked by Edwin Hickman, who died in Virginia in 1769. Clinton and Jolie are ninth cousins, twice removed, both related to Jean Cusson who died in Quebec in 1718.

While family trees such as these throw up interesting histories and links, genetically they are meaningless. While children carry half the genes of their father, cousins as far removed as Obama and Bush would have no more genetic link than someone they bumped into at random in the street.

The Republican candidate, John McCain, had claimed to be related to the Scottish king, Robert the Bruce, but, as the Guardian disclosed last week, British genealogists debunked that.

The New England genealogists who spent three years researching the background of the potential candidates found no royal strain either but established yet another Bush connection: McCain is a sixth cousin of the first lady, Laura Bush.






Jack slep
Local time: 04:08
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Maria Fokin
48 mins
  -> Maria, thank you. See my note about interesting trivia "removed"
agree  DTSM: Yes, I was thinking about that, I-dah )
7 hrs
  -> Thanks, Dimi! See my note about interesting trivia "removed."
neutral  Rachel Douglas: Jack, you asked me a qustn elsewhere; not sure of the answer. I thought "removed" referred to generations, whereas "degrees of kinship/consanguinity" cd be (col)lateral, "horizontal." If somebody told me GWBush was my cousin, I'd want him to be removed!
12 hrs
  -> Have no fear! The Texopithecus branch dropped off the Family Tree and became a Bush, which is slowly dying out due to cerebral shrinkage.
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