запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы

English translation: forbidden (illegal) vs. allowed tricks

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Russian term or phrase:запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы
English translation:forbidden (illegal) vs. allowed tricks
Entered by: kramar

10:47 Sep 1, 2004
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Russian term or phrase: запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы
Однако в отличие от охоты диких животных, в конкурентной борьбе и в спортивной борьбе есть запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы.
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forbidden (illegal) vs. allowed tricks
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kramar
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Summary of answers provided
4 +5legal and illegal moves
Mikhail Kropotov
4forbidden (illegal) vs. allowed tricks
kramar
4forbidden tricks and legal techniques
Alexander Onishko
4acceptable and unacceptable modes (of behaviour)
sergey (X)
3forbidden and permitted ploys
Jack Doughty
3legitimate and non-legitimate methods
Dylan Edwards


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы
forbidden (illegal) vs. allowed tricks


Explanation:
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kramar
Ukraine
Local time: 22:31
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 12
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы
forbidden tricks and legal techniques


Explanation:
запрещённый приём = forbidden trick
см. http://www.multitran.ru/c/m.exe?a=phr&q=������&sc=20

см. также
Funagain Games: Dragon Master card game
... rich. There is also some strategic value in the determination of which
of the other players to slugh the forbidden tricks off to. ...

www.funagain.com/cgi-bin/funagain/01578

итого -

запрещенные приемы = forbidden trick
незапрещенные приемы = legal techniques

Alexander Onishko
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 128
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы
forbidden and permitted ploys


Explanation:
or banned and allowed, etc. But I thin "ploys" would be a good word here.

More Ploys
Quackwatch Home Page. More Ploys That May Fool You. Stephen Barrett, MD. Victor
Herbert, MD, JD. "Alternative"" promoters are reaching people emotionally. ...
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/ploys.html

ploys
Ploys Used To Subvert Consensus The following are some common ploys that can come
into play at collective meetings and within the organization's group dynamics ...
http://www.geocities.com/collectivebook/ploys.html

Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:31
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 423
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы
legal and illegal moves


Explanation:
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Note added at 1 hr 29 mins (2004-09-01 12:17:31 GMT)
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Jim Evans Training Systems, Inc.
Pitching Regulations and Balks

Explains and demonstrates basic requirements of the two legal pitching positions
Explains and demonstrates legal and illegal moves
Learn how to define a complete stop, a legal step, an illegal feint and more

http://www.umpireacademy.com/tapes.html

All subjects confirmed their understanding of these rules by
demonstrating legal and illegal moves. Participants were ...
www.sagepub.co.uk/PDF/JOURNALS/FULLTEXT/a015702.pdf

Before you all the sudden decide hockey\'s the greatest sport on earth, let me tell you the dangers first. In hockey there are legal and illegal moves.
www.skagitvalleyherald.com/articles/2003/04/15/shsports/spo...

Mikhail Kropotov
Germany
Local time: 21:31
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 207

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michael Moskowitz
1 hr
  -> thanks Michael!

agree  TranslatonatoR: as an ex-wrestler I concur...
1 hr
  -> thanx buddy!

agree  Vladimir Dubisskiy: fits the context
3 hrs
  -> thank you Vladimir! yes, i think it does - makes sense in sports and in business

agree  Kevin Kelly
6 hrs
  -> thank you Kevin!

agree  nrabate
8 hrs
  -> thanx!
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы
acceptable and unacceptable modes (of behaviour)


Explanation:

[PDF] Distributive and Procedural Justice in Seven Nations
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
... shared ways of thinking and shared perceptions (Shweder & Levine, 1984), and (c)
rules and norms specifying acceptable and unacceptable modes of conduct (Erez ...
www.kluweronline.com/article.asp?PIPS=225823&PDF=1

sergey (X)
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1 day 2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
запрещенные и незапрещенные приемы
legitimate and non-legitimate methods


Explanation:
or fair play and foul play

The question is, does the literal meaning and word order of the Russian need to be followed very closely, or is there scope for a bit of freedom?

The writer may be saying that some ways of doing things are legit, OK, above board, permissible, and others are not
OR
the writer may be saying that in the world of competition, it's all tricks, and some of the tricks are forbidden, and some, by common consent, are allowed, or at least not forbidden. In this case, too, I'd be inclined to re-phrase it a bit: tricks which are forbidden, and tricks which are not / some tricks are forbidden and others are not.


Dylan Edwards
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:31
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
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