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comis (subst.)

English translation: Master of the Horse

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Romanian term or phrase:comis (subst.)
English translation:Master of the Horse
Entered by: Pasha Hassan

10:50 Jun 11, 2010
Romanian to English translations [PRO]
Livestock / Animal Husbandry / termen din Evul Mediu
Romanian term or phrase: comis (subst.)
Comisul Ioniţă (personaj din "Hanu Ancuţei" de M. Sadoveanu)

CÓMIS, comiși, s.m. Mare dregător în Moldova și în Țara Românească, în evul mediu, care avea în sarcina sa caii și grajdurile curții domnești, precum și aprovizionarea cu furaje. – Din ngr. kómis. http://dexonline.ro/definitie/comis
Pasha Hassan
Master of the Horse, Stable Master
Explanation:
Master of the Horse is known under the name of Stable Master in Germany.


An equerry (pronounced /ˈɛkwərɪ/ or /ɪˈkwɛrɪ/, originated from the French word "écurie" (stable), and related to the French word "écuyer" (squire)) is an officer of honour. Historically, it was a senior attendant with responsibilities for the horses of a person of rank. In contemporary use, it is a personal attendant, usually upon a Sovereign, a member of a Royal Family, or a national representative. They are equivalent to Aides-de-Camp, but the term is specific to the Commonwealth of Nations.

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Din cate stiu, Equerry este termenul folosit si acum in tarile din Commonwealth. In Anglia, exista o pozitie Master of the Horse, care este diferita de cea de Equerry.
In trecut, in Europa, se folosea termenul Master of the Horse, iar in Germania Stable Master.
Alta referinta (Dictionary of Ancient Occupations and Trades,
Ranks, Offices, and Titles):
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/Sou...
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Local time: 10:23
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Master of the Horse nu face referire la blazon si se potriveste mai bine pentru celelalte tari europene din afara spatiului britanic.
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3 +3Master of the Horse, Stable Master
wordbridge
4 +1equerry
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equerry


Explanation:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/equerry
2. An officer charged with supervision of the horses belonging to a royal or noble household

Irina-Maria Foray
Romania
Local time: 10:23
Native speaker of: Native in RomanianRomanian

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Master of the Horse, Stable Master


Explanation:
Master of the Horse is known under the name of Stable Master in Germany.


An equerry (pronounced /ˈɛkwərɪ/ or /ɪˈkwɛrɪ/, originated from the French word "écurie" (stable), and related to the French word "écuyer" (squire)) is an officer of honour. Historically, it was a senior attendant with responsibilities for the horses of a person of rank. In contemporary use, it is a personal attendant, usually upon a Sovereign, a member of a Royal Family, or a national representative. They are equivalent to Aides-de-Camp, but the term is specific to the Commonwealth of Nations.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-06-11 12:36:26 GMT)
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Din cate stiu, Equerry este termenul folosit si acum in tarile din Commonwealth. In Anglia, exista o pozitie Master of the Horse, care este diferita de cea de Equerry.
In trecut, in Europa, se folosea termenul Master of the Horse, iar in Germania Stable Master.
Alta referinta (Dictionary of Ancient Occupations and Trades,
Ranks, Offices, and Titles):
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~dav4is/Sou...



    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Romanian_ranks_and_t...
    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_the_Horse
wordbridge
Romania
Local time: 10:23
Native speaker of: Romanian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Master of the Horse nu face referire la blazon si se potriveste mai bine pentru celelalte tari europene din afara spatiului britanic.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Desi par a fi sinonime, "equerry" si "master of the horse" nu denumesc aceeasi functie. Amandoua exista in acelasi timp: "equerry": "Sir Peter wrote an autobiography, Sounds From Another Room (1997), which described his interest in UFOs, which began when Equerry to His Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh, and a close encounter with an "alien" in London in 1954.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Horsley "Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother appointed Captain William Jonathan de Rouet, Irish Guards, to be an Equerry to Her Majesty in the room of Major Andrew Charles Burrell MacEwan, Irish Guards from 14th August 1998." http://www.buckinghamcovers.com/shop/signer.php?signer_id=117 "master of the horse" (al 5-lea paragraf de sub prima imagine din articol): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-490819/QUENTIN-LETTS-The-Queen-looked-delighted-greet-old-despot.html si aici: http://www.royal.gov.uk/TheRoyalHousehold/OfficialRoyalposts/MasteroftheHorse.aspx Care of fi traducerea potrivita pentru perioada Evului Mediu?


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Reference information:
CÓMIS, comiși, s.m. Mare dregător în Moldova și în Țara Românească, în evul mediu, care avea în sarcina sa caii și grajdurile curții domnești, precum și aprovizionarea cu furaje. – Din ngr. kómis.
http://dexonline.ro/definitie/comis
The Master of the Horse in the United Kingdom was once an important official of the sovereign's household, though the role is largely ceremonial today. The master of the horse is the third dignitary of the court, and was always a member of the ministry (before 1782 the office was of cabinet rank), a peer and a privy councillor. All matters connected with the horses and formerly also the hounds of the sovereign, as well as the stables and coachhouses, the stud, mews and previously the kennels, are within his jurisdiction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_the_Horse


Stable Master e total gresit caci nu reflecta termenul de tradus iar "Equerry" este mai degraba scutier decat comis cu aprovizionarea cu furaje nu are nici in clin nici in maneca

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equerry

Anca Nitu
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PRO pts in category: 4
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