Juiz Corregedor Permanente

English translation: Inspector General / General Registrar

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Portuguese term or phrase:	Juiz Corregedor Permanente
English translation:	Inspector General / General Registrar
Entered by:	Heather Phillips

16:07 Nov 25, 2019

Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Brazilian marriage certificate

Portuguese term or phrase: Juiz Corregedor Permanente

THe marriage certificate starts with .."conforme portaria do MM. Juiz Corregedor Permanente deste Serviço, veiculada no Oficio 369/2010 ......." The certificate was issued by the REGISTRO CIVIL DAS PESSOAS NATURAIS, but I have no idea who this juiz corregedor is - some kind of investigating magistrate was suggested by a Portuguese to Italian translation (giudice ispettore permanente...). Apart from that this is a very straightforward normal marriage certifiate; please can somebody explain this title to me? Many thanks!

Heather Phillips KudoZ activity Questions: 422 (2 open) (1 without valid answers) (59 closed without grading) Answers: 7 United Kingdom
Local time: 04:36

Inspector General / General Registrar

Explanation:
It seems as though there are a few questions to be answered, in order to try and come to the right official designation of that specific office:

1 - It is clear this is a marriage certificate; (in the UK) the person under whose authority all marriage certificates are redacted (apparently this Juiz Corregedor in Brazilian law) is the Registrar General (or the Superintendent RG); so this is one option, although this person might not be a judge.

2 - This expression seems to be on of those legal expressions that introduce certain specific documents (in order to keep formality), in this case a marriage certificate, so it doesn't tell us much about the relation between that person (Juiz Corregedor) and the legal effects being created (legal union between 2 persons).

3 - In the end, one has to decide wether to translate the terms - and in this case (in the UK) it would be the Inspector General -, or the idea (referring to which person in the target legal frame has the competence to issue such certificates, or under whose authority one such certificate is issued) - in which case it would be General Registrar.

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Note added at 23 hrs (2019-11-26 15:34:13 GMT)
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*Inspector General vs Registrar General

Selected response from:

Duarte Leal
Portugal
Local time: 04:36

Grading comment

The explanation given by Duarte seems to correspond exactly to this context so I feel that Registrar General is the best term as it is internationally used
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

(permanent) Chair of the judicial council

Lincoln Carvalho

Presiding District Judge

Mark Robertson

(Permanent) Magistrate Judge

Mario Freitas

Judicial District Chief Judge

Gilmar Fernandes

Inspector General / General Registrar

Duarte Leal

Discussion entries: 7

Heather Phillips

United Kingdom

ASKER

13:10 Nov 28, 2019

"The director of a General Register Office is or was often titled Registrar General or Registrar-General". Taken from Wikipedia, admittedly, but this source is often very useful :)

Heather Phillips

United Kingdom

ASKER

13:08 Nov 28, 2019

I made my decision based on Duarte's explanation of the situation in Brazil, where this certificate was issued. I had no reason to think that this was a judge and it seemed out of context for it to mean "judge" since reference is made to the Registry Office services, which are, I believe, regulated by senior registry office officials (such as Registrar General) rather than a judge. Registrar General rather than General Registrar. The client is happy with the solution so I am happy too. Thanks again to everybody for their contributions.

Mark Robertson

@Mario

15:31 Nov 27, 2019

You are right in this case Mário. General Registrar cannot be a correct answer in the context. The point about the registrar is just a footnote.

Mario Freitas

Brazil

15:07 Nov 27, 2019

When the asker is in the UK, I never insist too much. I'm not acquainted with the British law system.

Mark Robertson

But no...

07:42 Nov 27, 2019

I second Mário. A juiz corregedor, in this context, is a judge who has hierarchic powers in relation to subordinate judges and courts within his/her judicial district.

However, in common law jurisdictions, a registrar (not a General Registrar) is a junior judicial officer:
"In common law jurisdictions, registrars are usually judicial officers with the power to hear certain civil matters such as interlocutory applications and assessment of damages. In some jurisdictions they may also hear trials of cases if both parties consent.[1] Registrars are assisted by Deputy-Registrars, who in common law jurisdictions are sometime called masters.[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registrar_(law)

Mario Freitas

Brazil

But...

21:10 Nov 26, 2019

A registrar is not a judge.

Heather Phillips

United Kingdom

ASKER

15:42 Nov 26, 2019

Many thanks to everybody who has contributed to this discussion, several of the solutions sound good, but I finally decided to go with Registrar General. All very good suggestions :)

Answers

1 hr confidence:

(permanent) Chair of the judicial council

Explanation:
No dicionário da Maria Chaves de Mello: corregedor = chair of the judicial council.

Dicionário Priberam: juiz corregedor = Magistrado que tem jurisdição sobre os outros juízes de uma comarca, fiscalizando o andamento da justiça e dos serviços forenses.

Pelo que entendi o juiz corregedor é uma espécie de chefe dos outros juízes, logo o "chair".

Merriam Webster: judicial council: a governmental agency usually composed of judges and lawyers and established to study and make recommendations to the legislature on alterations in the laws and in the administration of the courts
judicial councils … devise ways of simplifying judicial procedure

Lincoln Carvalho
Brazil
Local time: 00:36
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Portuguese

1 hr confidence:

Presiding District Judge

Explanation:
juiz-corregedorcorregedor | s. m. [ Direito ] Magistrado que tem jurisdição sobre os outros juízes de uma comarca, fiscalizando o andamento da justiça e dos serviços forenses. Plural: juízes-corregedores.

Comarca = judicial district

Legal Definition of preside
1: to exercise guidance, direction, or control
2: to occupy the place of authority : direct or regulate proceedings as chief officer
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/preside

Mark Robertson
Local time: 04:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 1218

12 hrs confidence:

(Permanent) Magistrate Judge

Explanation:
https://www.google.com.br/search?biw=925&bih=755&sxsrf=ACYBG...

Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 00:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 842

22 hrs confidence:

Judicial District Chief Judge

Explanation:
JUIZ CORREGEDOR. É o magistrado a que se conferem atribuições de fazer correições nos cartórios e ofícios, a bem do perfeito andamento da Justiça.

Silva, De Plácido - Vocabulário Jurídico – 31. ed. – Rio de Janeiro: Forense, 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_judge

https://tinyurl.com/qn59hrb

Gilmar Fernandes
United States
Local time: 23:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Portuguese,

English
PRO pts in category: 1082

23 hrs confidence:

Inspector General / General Registrar

Duarte Leal
Portugal
Local time: 04:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

The explanation given by Duarte seems to correspond exactly to this context so I feel that Registrar General is the best term as it is internationally used

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks Duarte, that seems to fit the bill perfectly, and special thanks for the very complete answer :)

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