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på ferske spor

English translation: following a new lead

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Norwegian term or phrase:på ferske spor
English translation:following a new lead
Entered by: Helen Johnson

07:32 Oct 1, 2008
Norwegian to English translations [PRO]
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings / pursuit of criminals
Norwegian term or phrase: på ferske spor
politiavtaler med naboland om forfølgelse av forbrytere på ferske spor
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Helen Johnson
United Kingdom
Local time: 18:50
following a new lead
Explanation:
What people might say colloquially.

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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2008-10-02 17:54:24 GMT)
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Per has a good point about the singular/plural issue. My thinking in translating it as singular is that if you are following the tracks (plural) of an animal, you may well still just be translating one animal (singular) since one animal leaves multiple hoof/paw/foot prints. Given that analogy, I think even though the Norwegian is plural, I might still go with a singular translation. Hard to know for sure without more context.

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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2008-10-02 17:57:15 GMT)
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Whoops! That should be "tracking one animal," not "translating one animal." Guess you know where my mind is...
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Tara Chace
United States
Local time: 10:50
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3 +4following a new lead
Tara Chace
3on hot traces
hirselina
3fresh trails
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hirselina

  

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on hot traces


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see context

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fresh trails


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:o)

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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
following a new lead


Explanation:
What people might say colloquially.

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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2008-10-02 17:54:24 GMT)
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Per has a good point about the singular/plural issue. My thinking in translating it as singular is that if you are following the tracks (plural) of an animal, you may well still just be translating one animal (singular) since one animal leaves multiple hoof/paw/foot prints. Given that analogy, I think even though the Norwegian is plural, I might still go with a singular translation. Hard to know for sure without more context.

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Note added at 1 day10 hrs (2008-10-02 17:57:15 GMT)
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Whoops! That should be "tracking one animal," not "translating one animal." Guess you know where my mind is...


    Reference: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3007041.stm
Tara Chace
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Local time: 10:50
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Thanks!
Notes to answerer
Asker: In this context, the proofreader of my document said '..allowing cross-border pursuits'. I had originally thought 'hot on the tail of', which isn't the right register for the document I've worked on (to be used in presentations). I think yours is right in other circumstances though, i.e. where less academic wording is needed..?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  jeffrey engberg: i agree
15 hrs
agree  Mari Noller
19 hrs
agree  Per Bergvall: Should be plural, though - like the source term...
1 day 2 hrs
agree  Erik Matson: agree with Per as always, this is good terminology, but must be plural...i would say "following fresh leads"
6 days
neutral  hirselina: "Forfølgelse på ferske spor" on the website of the Norwegian police is definitely about Schengen cooperation
11 days
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37 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference

Reference information:
This refers to "hot pursuit"
Under Article 41 of the Schengen II Convention, police from one Schengen state may cross national borders to chase their target, if it is not possible to notify the police of the second state prior to entry into that territory, or if the authorities of the second state are unable to reach the scene in time to take over the pursuit. The Schengen States may declare if they restrict the right to hot pursuit into their territory in time or in distance, and if they allow the neighboring states to arrest persons on their territory. However, the second state is obliged to challenge the pursued person in order to establish the person's identity or to make an arrest if so requested by the pursuing state. The right to hot pursuit is limited to land borders. The pursuing officers either have to be in uniform, or their vehicles have to be marked. They are permitted to carry service weapons, which may be used only in self-defence. After the operation, the first state has to report to the second state about its outcome.

5.5.4 Forfølgelse over landgrensene på ferske spor
Artikkel 41 regulerer de tilfellene hvor en person forfølges på ferske spor. Dersom politiet i et Schengen-land har tatt opp forfølgelsen av en person som er oppdaget på fersk gjerning i ferd med å begå eller medvirke til en straffbar handling som nevnt i nr. 4 i artikkelen, kan politiet fortsette forfølgelsen over landegrensen uten å innhente forhåndstillatelse når det ikke har vært tid til dette, eller når myndighetene i mottakerlandet ikke i tide har nådd frem for å overta forfølgelsen. Her er det snakk om forfølgelse av en eller flere personer som er tatt på fersk gjerning. Fersk gjerning foreligger når en person oppdages under selve utførelsen av den straffbare handlingen, eller når vedkommende oppdages umiddelbart etterpå og det er klart at han er gjerningsmannen. Det samme gjelder i de tilfeller hvor en person er rømt fra varetekt eller soning.


    Reference: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement
    Reference: http://www.regjeringen.no/nb/dep/jd/dok/regpubl/stprp/199619...
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Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Αlban SHPΑTΑ: hot pursuit in my references too.
3 hrs
  -> Thanks, this is a very common topic in international agreements!
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