Vive moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus.

English translation: Live according to the customs of the past, but speak in today's language

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Latin term or phrase:Vive moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus.
English translation:Live according to the customs of the past, but speak in today's language
Entered by: Brigitte Albert (X)

15:18 Apr 18, 2006
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Latin term or phrase: Vive moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus.
"As I feel inadequate, I've foung the following saying relevant to my life: Vive moribus paeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus."

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Pnina
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Live according to the customs of the past, but speak in today's language
Explanation:
This is a quote from Book I from Noctes Atticae: Liber I by Aulus Gellius. The quote is part of an argument against using archaic style.

Cfr. C. Julii Caesaris De Analogia, in Gellii Noct. Att., I, 10, 4: «Vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus atque id, quod a C. Caesare, excellentis ingenii ac prudentiae viro, in primo de analogia libro scriptum est, habe semper in memoria atque in pectore, ut “tamquam scopulum, sic fugias inauditum atque insolens verbum”».


Noctes Atticae: Liber I


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This particular quote appears in many references; it was an inspiration to many a writer, I can imagine...
Vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus. [Aulo Gélio, Noctes Atticae 1.10.4]. Vive de acordo com os costumes antigos, fala com as palavras atuais.

www.hkocher.info/minha_pagina/dicionario/v07.htm - 145k


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The Confessions of Saint Augustine, book 31.10.4 , quoting his teacher Favorinus: `vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus atque id, quod a C. Caesare, excellentis ingenii ac ...
www.stoa.org/hippo/comm3.html - 262k - Cached

It turns out that Favorinus was a contemporary and friend of Aulus Gellius, author of Noctes Atticae


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Something I haven't been able to find: was Favorinus--a famous orator and teacher-- known for his archaic language and was this proverb used by Aulus Gellius in arguments with Favorinus promoting "plain speaking and writing?"
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Live according to the customs of the past, but speak in today's language


Explanation:
This is a quote from Book I from Noctes Atticae: Liber I by Aulus Gellius. The quote is part of an argument against using archaic style.

Cfr. C. Julii Caesaris De Analogia, in Gellii Noct. Att., I, 10, 4: «Vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus atque id, quod a C. Caesare, excellentis ingenii ac prudentiae viro, in primo de analogia libro scriptum est, habe semper in memoria atque in pectore, ut “tamquam scopulum, sic fugias inauditum atque insolens verbum”».


Noctes Atticae: Liber I


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Note added at 1 hr (2006-04-18 16:46:03 GMT)
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This particular quote appears in many references; it was an inspiration to many a writer, I can imagine...
Vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus. [Aulo Gélio, Noctes Atticae 1.10.4]. Vive de acordo com os costumes antigos, fala com as palavras atuais.

www.hkocher.info/minha_pagina/dicionario/v07.htm - 145k


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Note added at 1 hr (2006-04-18 16:49:42 GMT)
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The Confessions of Saint Augustine, book 31.10.4 , quoting his teacher Favorinus: `vive ergo moribus praeteritis, loquere verbis praesentibus atque id, quod a C. Caesare, excellentis ingenii ac ...
www.stoa.org/hippo/comm3.html - 262k - Cached

It turns out that Favorinus was a contemporary and friend of Aulus Gellius, author of Noctes Atticae


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Note added at 1 hr (2006-04-18 16:54:06 GMT)
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Something I haven't been able to find: was Favorinus--a famous orator and teacher-- known for his archaic language and was this proverb used by Aulus Gellius in arguments with Favorinus promoting "plain speaking and writing?"



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