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ceterius paribus

English translation: All OTHER things being equal

22:23 Jan 30, 2002
Latin to English translations [Non-PRO]
Bus/Financial - Economics / economics
Latin term or phrase: ceterius paribus
this phrase is being thrown around in my macro economics class and no one can give me a word for word literal translation of the phrase, not even the teacher who uses it so willingly
Matthew
English translation:All OTHER things being equal
Explanation:
Cecilia's completely right, of course, about the idiomatic equivalent in English, but note that "ceteris" [sblative absolute] means "the rest, the remainder," as in "et cetera" [neuter nominative plural) ("and other things").
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Colin Brayton
Local time: 17:29
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2All OTHER things being equal
Colin Brayton
4 +1all things being equal
Parrot
5On translating into your own language
John Kinory (X)
4all other things equal
Antoinette Verburg
5 -1Still condemnation
1964
4 -2Every thing other is fixed , other things means does not change
1964


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
Every thing other is fixed , other things means does not change


Explanation:
dear Matthew that is not a simple word in that context, when you have a lot of variable f(x,y,..) and when you want only understand, let us say price to quantity relation you say ceterius paribus that is all other things does not change , or not varied.
That means partial differentiation in mathematical context.


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Note added at 2002-01-31 10:18:20 (GMT)
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That means all (other) things being equal but that does not mean anything to asker, It is used to find out or to focus on the relation between two variable one dependent and other is independent in that context. In short, it also means partial derivative of such dependent variable with respect to independent one.

1964
Türkiye
Local time: 00:29
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  John Kinory (X): Dear Tayfun, no offence but you cannot offer a translation into English that is not correct English.
1 hr
  -> Well, I changed the sentence and then forget to delete some words, Don't worry about my English translations
disagree  Antoinette Verburg: This is not correct English. As to your note to John: if you notice any mistakes in your answer, you should either add a note, or just 'hide' your answer
8 hrs
  -> I have nothing to hide, if it is not correct english ok, but do not judge or condemn persons but only criticize answers !!!
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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
all things being equal


Explanation:
It's a formula.

Parrot
Spain
Local time: 23:29
Native speaker of: English

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agree  John Kinory (X): Indeed
1 hr
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
All OTHER things being equal


Explanation:
Cecilia's completely right, of course, about the idiomatic equivalent in English, but note that "ceteris" [sblative absolute] means "the rest, the remainder," as in "et cetera" [neuter nominative plural) ("and other things").

Colin Brayton
Local time: 17:29
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nigel Patterson
41 mins
agree  Flavio Ferri-Benedetti
16 hrs
agree  Umit Altug
20 hrs
disagree  John Kinory (X): This is not a translation but a 'transliteration', since idiomatic English is not simply the Latin words rendered into English and then strung together literally.
1 day 22 hrs
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
all other things equal


Explanation:
ceterus = other
par = equal
See reference.

Hope this helps.
Mirror.

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Note added at 2002-01-31 07:24:19 (GMT)
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More examples:

\'All other things equal, going from very low income to higher income, predicted adequacy decreases\' (http://www.hec.ohio-state.edu/hanna/sowhat.htm);

\'All other things equal, it reduces unnecessary travel and preserves open space\' (http://www.bayweekly.com/year00/issue8_34/reflect8_34.html);

\'After a stock repurchase there are fewer shares of common stock outstanding and therefore, all other things equal, earnings per share is increased\' (http://web.utk.edu/~jwachowi/tfquiz/tf18.html);

\'A decrease in the supply of a good or service will, all other things equal,
a. Increase equilibrium price and quantity of the good/service\' (http://lamar.colostate.edu/~alex/EC202H/test100.html);

and so on and so forth. :)


    Reference: http://www.hhh.umn.edu/pubpol/pubpol-d/199506/0198.html
Antoinette Verburg
Netherlands
Local time: 23:29
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  John Kinory (X): That cannot stand on its own as a phrase
1 hr
  -> Sorry to correct you, John, but it most certainly can! You'll find 2.300 sites on www.google.com to prove it, e.g. http://ebusiness.dci.com/articles/1998/06/25radin.htm, http://www.hec.ohio-state.edu/hanna/sowhat.htm, etc., etc.
agree  Flavio Ferri-Benedetti: Indeed it can, and reminds me the clarity and brevity of Latin's absolute ablative. Very good!
16 hrs
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
On translating into your own language


Explanation:
Here we go again ...

1. Tayfun: nobody is 'condemning' you, and to claim they do is not just an untruth but an inflammatory slur. Your proposed translation is atrocious English, and I will continue to criticise such offerings. This question was posted under Latin>English, and only correct, or reasonably passable, English should be posted.

2. Mirror: I notice you claim to translate into 4 languages. No serious professional can do that, or claim they do. Is English your native language? Do you live in England? I do, and translate into English, and I tell you this phrase does not feel right: it is not idiomatic, whether or not it is grammatically a 'pass'.
Throwing Google hits about proves very little.

3. Flavio: Latin may have all the things you claim for it, but this is into English, not into Latin. We are dealing with a translation, not simply 'transliterating' the Latin into English. As such, it fails.

John Kinory (X)
Local time: 22:29
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1 day 2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Still condemnation


Explanation:
You are still condemning all.
You can not determine wheter a person can translate into English or not just looking at an answer,
I do translate from Turkish into English :
Medical, sociological,Legal,Scientific
papers/articles..
however they may need a proofreading by
a native speaker (but a qualified one).

As you know translation pairs and Interest pairs may be different, these are pairs your are not good at traslation but you only have an orientation toward or interest in them.
As for latin, that is not a latin question at all !
Why? : This word like many latin origin words used in jargons.(legal, Medical,etc.)
You need not ELIMINATE any answer,if you have superior one, let them live together, superior will be un-"naturally" selected by asker.!
I respect any critics, and they add something valuable to me more than any "agree" can do.
However if you go on this way you will "inflame" a desire in me to learn Hebrew and answer them as well.



1964
Türkiye
Local time: 00:29
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  John Kinory (X): Oh, so you've been to my page, have you? And you are going to answer Hebrew questions too, from now on? OK, be my guest [LOLOL]
20 hrs
  -> OK do'not laugh so loud on line, if you want discuss such things there are forums.By the way Congatulations for your showroom
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