quartini

English translation: quarto(es)

19:06 Jan 14, 2019
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Printing & Publishing / book binding
Italian term or phrase: quartini
I'm really struggling with terminology in general for a translation about book printing and binding, it's a bit out of my comfort zone! If anybody knows of any good glossaries or resources that may be helpful I'd be REALLY grateful!
In the meantime, I keep coming across "quartini" and can't work out what it means. E.g.: "Rilegatura giapponese - Tipologia di rilegatura realizzata con quartini incollati al contrario."
Any ideas?!
Suzanne Smart (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:27
English translation:quarto(es)
Explanation:
see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarto
Bookbinding - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookbinding

Bookbinding is the process of physically assembling a book of codex format from an ordered ...... Folio, quarto, and so on may also refer to the size of the finished book, based on the size of sheet that an early paper maker could conveniently turn ...
‎Coptic binding · ‎Bookbinding · ‎Swell (bookbinding)
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Shera Lyn Parpia
Italy
Local time: 06:27
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After further research, this seemed to be correct. Thanks everyone.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2four-page signature, 2-up
Roberta Anderson
4 +2quarto(es)
Shera Lyn Parpia
Summary of reference entries provided
Definition
philgoddard
Quartini
Daniela Cannarella
Quarto and quartos
texjax DDS PhD

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quarto(es)


Explanation:
see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarto
Bookbinding - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookbinding

Bookbinding is the process of physically assembling a book of codex format from an ordered ...... Folio, quarto, and so on may also refer to the size of the finished book, based on the size of sheet that an early paper maker could conveniently turn ...
‎Coptic binding · ‎Bookbinding · ‎Swell (bookbinding)


Shera Lyn Parpia
Italy
Local time: 06:27
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 51
Grading comment
After further research, this seemed to be correct. Thanks everyone.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: I may be wrong, but I don't think this is correct. Quarto refers to the page size, as your references indicate.
8 mins
  -> It refers to several things and page size is only one of them.

agree  texjax DDS PhD: I would say "quartos" or "quarto format", but quartos is perfectly fine IMHO. http://www.shakespeare-online.com/biography/shakespeareinpri...
8 hrs
  -> Thanks!

agree  Ian Mansbridge
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four-page signature, 2-up


Explanation:
A "quartino" is a four-page signature, i.e. a printed sheet on which 4 pages (2 on each side) are printed in a way that, once folded and cut, they will appear in the right sequence
Also referred as "2-up" (because there are 2 pages on each side of the sheet)

An "ottavo" is an eight-page signature (or 4-up), and "sedicesimo" a 16-page signature (or 8-up)


    https://www.designersinsights.com/designer-resources/understanding-and-working-with-print/
    https://opensource.com/life/16/8/automating-pre-press-layouts-linux-commands
Roberta Anderson
Italy
Local time: 06:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 51

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agree  Grace Anderson
4 hrs

agree  philgoddard
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Reference comments


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Reference: Definition

Reference information:
Pieghevole composto da 4 pagine. Si tratta del tipo di
depliant più diffuso e qualche volta può anche essere una
segnatura necessaria per raggiungere il numero di pagine richiesto.

This is from http://www.scribd.com/doc/23143087/Dizionario-tecnico-della-... which you may find useful.

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Note added at 27 mins (2019-01-14 19:34:12 GMT)
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I think the answer may be "quarto gatherings" or "quarto quires", though neither gets many hits and I wonder whether there's a more common term.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks Phil! I hadn't seen that and it is indeed useful. My jury's out on Quarto as a solution as well. I've been through Wikipedia and not found an answer.

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Reference: Quartini

Reference information:
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segnatura_(editoria)

Daniela Cannarella
Italy
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
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Reference: Quarto and quartos

Reference information:
Just what is a quarto?
Quarto - A quarto is a book in which eight pages are printed on a single sheet which is folded twice to form four leaves. The average quarto contains about one hundred pages, and is about 6 3/4 x 8 1/2 inches in size.

Folio - A folio is a book in which each sheet is folded over only once through the middle, forming two leaves (or four pages). The First Folio has 454 leaves, approximately 8 1/2 x 13 3/8 inches in size.

Apocrypha - The term apocrypha is given to the collection of twelve plays that some scholars believe to be Shakespeare's, but are not officially part of the current canon of works because no real proof of authenticity has ever been brought forth. Here are the names of the twelve apocryphal plays: Locrine, The London Prodigal, The Puritan, Thomas, Lord Cromwell, Sir John Oldcastle, Arden of Feversham, A Yorkshire Tragedy, The Birth of Merlin, Edward III, Fair Em, Mucedorus, and The Merry Devil of Edmonton.

Example sentence(s):
  • Before the publication of the First Folio in 1623, nineteen of the thirty-seven plays in Shakespeare's canon had appeared in quarto format. With the exception of Othello (1622), all of the quartos were published prior to the date of S.'s retirement

    Reference: http://www.shakespeare-online.com/biography/shakespeareinpri...
texjax DDS PhD
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian

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agree  Shera Lyn Parpia: Thanks for researching this reference. Very interesting.
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