inconscio della mano

English translation: subconscious hand

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Italian term or phrase:inconscio della mano
English translation:subconscious hand
Entered by: Maria Burnett

16:34 Oct 15, 2020
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / Neodinamismo
Italian term or phrase: inconscio della mano
Con Duchamp si è passati dalla presentazione alla rappresentazione.
“Non volevo più fare niente con le mie mani…Desideravo introdurre in pittura qualcosa di diverso rispetto al cosiddetto inconscio della mano, che poi non è affatto inconscio, ma piuttosto abilità, destrezza”. (Marcel Duchamp)
Maria Burnett
United States
Local time: 14:00
subconscious hand
Explanation:
All of that signifies the irruption of the unconscious which makes its theatrical entrance in this painting, and Matthew Dibble himself, supports this analysis by speaking of his work as a psychological painting in a recent email received on April 4, 2010:
"This painting is psychological..."

But this phenomenon is not new, since Marcel Duchamp had seen in Courbet, the father of the modern painters, the intervention of "the subconscious hand" and also quite evidently in the work of Matthew Dibble, where his work escapes pure reason.


Tout cela signifie l’irruption de l’inconscient qui fait son entrée en scène dans cette peinture. Et Matthew Dibble lui-même conforte cette analyse parlant de son œuvre comme d’une peinture d’ordre psychologique dans un courriel récent du 2/04/2010 : " This painting is psychological… "


Mais ce phénomène n’est pas nouveau puisque Marcel Duchamp voyait déjà en Courbet, le père des nouveaux peintres, l’intervention de la " main subconsciente ". Et bien évidemment aussi chez Matthew Dibble où son travail échappe à la pure raison.

http://espacetrevisse.e-monsite.com/pages/mes-travaux-person...

With reasoned obsessiveness, the canvases of David Dupuis repeat
and design the various patterns of recognizable abstractions, figures of
the movements of the subconscious hand in which the explorations of
the mind become trapped
https://www.collezionemaramotti.org/documents/20182/230417/A...

If one of the characteristics of modern art since Courbet has been the
cult of the subconscious hand, quite a number of artists in the last thirty
years have abandoned this cult and tumed toward a consciously..
https://eportfolios.macaulay.cuny.edu/calirmanfall2014/files...
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texjax DDS PhD
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4 +1subconscious hand
texjax DDS PhD
4unconscious hand
philgoddard
4natural intuition of the hand
Cillie Swart
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Marcel Duchamp
Marco Solinas
info
martini

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unconscious hand


Explanation:
Meaning that the hand doesn't consciously know what it's doing. I'm guessing it's "la main inconsciente" in French, but I haven't been able to find this.

philgoddard
United States
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Barbara Carrara: I believe Duchamp described it as 'le subconscient de la main'.
26 mins
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subconscious hand


Explanation:
All of that signifies the irruption of the unconscious which makes its theatrical entrance in this painting, and Matthew Dibble himself, supports this analysis by speaking of his work as a psychological painting in a recent email received on April 4, 2010:
"This painting is psychological..."

But this phenomenon is not new, since Marcel Duchamp had seen in Courbet, the father of the modern painters, the intervention of "the subconscious hand" and also quite evidently in the work of Matthew Dibble, where his work escapes pure reason.


Tout cela signifie l’irruption de l’inconscient qui fait son entrée en scène dans cette peinture. Et Matthew Dibble lui-même conforte cette analyse parlant de son œuvre comme d’une peinture d’ordre psychologique dans un courriel récent du 2/04/2010 : " This painting is psychological… "


Mais ce phénomène n’est pas nouveau puisque Marcel Duchamp voyait déjà en Courbet, le père des nouveaux peintres, l’intervention de la " main subconsciente ". Et bien évidemment aussi chez Matthew Dibble où son travail échappe à la pure raison.

http://espacetrevisse.e-monsite.com/pages/mes-travaux-person...

With reasoned obsessiveness, the canvases of David Dupuis repeat
and design the various patterns of recognizable abstractions, figures of
the movements of the subconscious hand in which the explorations of
the mind become trapped
https://www.collezionemaramotti.org/documents/20182/230417/A...

If one of the characteristics of modern art since Courbet has been the
cult of the subconscious hand, quite a number of artists in the last thirty
years have abandoned this cult and tumed toward a consciously..
https://eportfolios.macaulay.cuny.edu/calirmanfall2014/files...


texjax DDS PhD
Local time: 14:00
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agree  Shera Lyn Parpia
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natural intuition of the hand


Explanation:
Sounds to me like this is what the author is referring to. The intuition or instinctive movements of the hand, that are not logically thought out and planned.


    https://www.linguee.com/italian-english/translation/inconscio+della+mano.html
    https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=%E2%80%9CNon%20volevo%20pi%C3%B9%20fare%20niente%20con%20le%20mie%20
Cillie Swart
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Reference comments


56 mins
Reference: Marcel Duchamp

Reference information:
See page 53 of https://www.moma.org/documents/moma_catalogue_1880_300062228...
and bottom of page 3 of this article by Marcel Duchamp: https://www.persee.fr/doc/chime_0986-6035_1993_num_19_1_1884

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Note added at 1 hr (2020-10-15 17:36:10 GMT)
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Correction: the article in the second reference is NOT by Marcel Duchamp.

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Note added at 1 hr (2020-10-15 17:42:57 GMT)
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See paragraph 10 of this article https://www.cairn.info/revue-nouvelle-revue-d-esthetique-201... . Duchamp did use the expression "subconscient de la main"

Marco Solinas
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Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  Barbara Carrara: Thank you, Marco.
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22 hrs
Reference: info

Reference information:
Je désirais introduire dans la peinture quelque chose d ' autre que le soi-disant subconscient de la main qui n ' est pas du tout subconscient ....
https://issuu.com/carolinebsn/docs/caroline_busson_memoire

martini
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