diketahuinya dari keterangan-keterangan yang telah mereka peroleh

01:25 Aug 15, 2013
Indonesian to English translations [PRO]
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Indonesian term or phrase: diketahuinya dari keterangan-keterangan yang telah mereka peroleh
Selanjutnya kedua penghadap itu menerang kan bahwa tentang kelahiran itu dapat diketahuinya dari keterangan-keterangan yang telah mereka peroleh
WawanStew
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Summary of answers provided
5made aware of the birth from the information they have collected
Muhammad Iwan Munandar, PhD
5knew the birth from the information they obtained
Rosmeilan Siagian
5that they were able to establish the birth from information they had obtained
Erich Ekoputra
3... identified by [him/her] from the information that they had obtained.
Laurens Sipahelut


  

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knew the birth from the information they obtained


Explanation:
Kalimat bahasa Indonesianya memang membingungkan. Tapi kita tangkap saja maknanya, lalu terjemahkan ke bahasa Inggris dengan makna dan grammar yang benar tentunya.



Rosmeilan Siagian
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... identified by [him/her] from the information that they had obtained.


Explanation:
Penerjemahan verbatim. Lengkapnya: 'Next the two parties explained that the birth could be identified by [him/her] from the information that they had obtained.'

Laurens Sipahelut
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made aware of the birth from the information they have collected


Explanation:
Dari konteks penggunaan, kita bisa berasumsi bahwa kalimat ini berkaitan dengan notarial and legal language . Untuk itu, gaya bahasa, diksi/pilihan kata dan/atau tata bahasa juga disesuaikan.

Terjemahan verbatimnya sebagai berikut: Selanjutnya kedua penghadap itu menerangkan bahwa tentang kelahiran itu dapat diketahuinya dari keterangan-keterangan yang telah mereka peroleh. = Further, the two persons appearing [before me (notary public)] affirmed that they were made aware of the birth from the information they have collected.

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german_to_english/law_general/2654...
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/aware
http://www.barandbench.com/content/determining-governing-law...


Muhammad Iwan Munandar, PhD
Indonesia
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that they were able to establish the birth from information they had obtained


Explanation:

Bahasa Indonesianya jungkir balik, walau makna dasarnya tetap dapat tertangkap, yakni:
bahwa mereka (=kedua penghadap) dapat mengetahui kelahiran itu dari keterangan yang mereka peroleh.

Terjemahan ini mengacu ke susun ulang (paraphrase) di atas. IMO, makna legal dari diketahui/mengetahui di sini bukan sekadar tahu, namun sudah lebih ke memastikan alias establish.

Ref: https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/How_to_Find_Birth_Inf...
Like all records, they need to be examined carefully for information that will help establish the birth or give clues where to look for more information.

Secara keseluruhan:
Both appearers subsequently stated that they were able to establish the birth from information they had obtained.

Erich Ekoputra
Indonesia
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Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian
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