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Nikmatnya kue bisnis X

English translation: X business: a lucrative pie

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Indonesian term or phrase:Nikmatnya kue bisnis X
English translation:X business: a lucrative pie
Entered by: Catherine Muir

04:52 Oct 14, 2010
Indonesian to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / novel 'Layar Terkembang'
Indonesian term or phrase: Nikmatnya kue bisnis X
In this context, meaning of 'kue' is not literal, but alludes to the way the benefits/profits of a business/industry are distributed, like slices of a pie, for example, in the phrases 'nikmatnya kue bisnis tembakau' or 'Pengembang berebut 'kue' di Bodetabek'. Please suggest English translation of 'nikmatnya kue bisnis X'. Would 'the X business is a delicious pie' be near the mark, or is there a better way to express it?
Catherine Muir
Australia
Local time: 07:53
Lucrativeness of X business pie
Explanation:
IMHO
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l08l
United States
Local time: 04:53
Grading comment
I actually translated the heading 'Nikmatnya kue bisnic tembakau' as 'Tobacco Business: a Lucrative Pie', using your suggestion of 'lucrative'. Although I didn't use your suggestion totally, you gave me the idea I needed.
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Summary of answers provided
4The profits of the X business are most agreeable
Ian Forbes
4The beauty of the X business
John Gare (X)
3Lucrativeness of X business pie
l08l
3The luscious chunks of the X business
Irma Wildani Anzia
3The Trappings of X Business Success
Roderick Clarke


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
The profits of the X business are most agreeable


Explanation:
Maybe a bit too formal but hopefully it captures the basic idea.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-10-14 06:11:06 GMT)
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Sure, your translation sounds great. You could also say "Hefty Profits for Tobacco Entrepreneurs" or "Tobacco Entrepreneurs Get the Cake, Growers Get the Crumbs" :)

Ian Forbes
New Zealand
Local time: 09:53
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: How could I make it 'snappier', like 4 0r 5 words for the heading of a magazine article and retain the sense of 'nikmatnya'? How about 'Tasty Profits for Tobacco Entrepreneurs' which is the gist of the article, i.e., farmers get zilch while big guys are zillionaires.

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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
The beauty of the X business


Explanation:
Like Ny. Lilik's Mud Cookies, Sidoarjo. Real cookies, real profits, alongside the disaster of the mud flow from the gas exploration site

John Gare (X)
Local time: 07:53
Meets criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, John, but how can I include the idea of 'kue'?

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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Lucrativeness of X business pie


Explanation:
IMHO

l08l
United States
Local time: 04:53
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Native in IndonesianIndonesian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
I actually translated the heading 'Nikmatnya kue bisnic tembakau' as 'Tobacco Business: a Lucrative Pie', using your suggestion of 'lucrative'. Although I didn't use your suggestion totally, you gave me the idea I needed.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, it's a good suggestion.

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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
The luscious chunks of the X business


Explanation:
What about the word "chunk"? It can also be used to describe money like in "we won a chunk of money" (from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chunk). "Luscious" can also be replaced by "big" as an alternative.

Luscious implies such a luxuriant fullness or ripeness as to make an object rich: a luscious banana; a luscious beauty; luscious music.


    Reference: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chunk
    Reference: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/delicious
Irma Wildani Anzia
Indonesia
Does not meet criteria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Indonesian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for your suggestion, Irma.

Asker: Also, 'luscious' accurately expresses 'nikmatnya' but the phrase is idiomatic, rather than literal. While it doesn't fit, I am very grateful that you have tried to help. It's a case of knowing what I want to say but not being able to find the right words ... yet.

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1 day 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
The Trappings of X Business Success


Explanation:
I'm not sure if 'success' adequately renders the 'kue' concept. Given the context, perhaps 'trappings' could be considered for 'nikmatnya', ie. it can tend to have a negative connotation for the benefits enjoyed from a lucrative activity.

Another one I thought of, although I think it's too loose and wordy is - "X Business Takes the Cake and Eats it Too". I wonder if there's some correlation between the idea behind "nikmatnya kue bisnis x" and this English expression.

Roderick Clarke
Australia
Local time: 07:53
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi, Rod. I'm becoming more convinced that what I need is something that conveys the message that at every step in the process, someone is taking a piece of the action, i.e., the pie is sliced up a whole lot of ways. All these suggestions are helping me get a fix on it! While it's not about 'having your cake and eating it too', there is surely an idiomatic way of expressing the idea of "everyone's fingers in the pie". I might even go with that.

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