allampolgarsaga

English translation: nationality

12:46 Dec 31, 2013
Hungarian to English translations [PRO]
Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs / Visa
Hungarian term or phrase: allampolgarsaga
allampolgarsaga
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Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 20:16
English translation:nationality
Explanation:
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tzHIS rtHis
Identification page
Information on the (possibly laminated) identification page, in the languages of the issuing state plus English and French, accompanied by numbers that refer to an index that lists the meaning of these fields in all official EU languages:

1. Surname 2. Forename(s)
3. Nationality 4. Date of birth
5. Sex 6. Place of birth
7. Date of issue 8. Date of expiry
9. Authority 10. Signature of holder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passports_of_the_European_Union...
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Krisztina Lelik
Greece
Local time: 20:16
Grading comment
I whish I could divide the points.
Thanks to all of you!
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5 +3citizenship
Attila Széphegyi
5 +3nationality
Krisztina Lelik


  

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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
citizenship


Explanation:
„Évekkel ezelőtt kisebb botrányt keltett Romániában, hogy az új, kanadai minta szerint készült útlevelekben a nemzetiség rubrikánál – amelynek tulajdonképpen az állampolgárságot kellett volna jelölnie – mindenkinél a román bejegyzés szerepelt. A tiltakozások után átjavították az úti okmányokat, kiküszöbölve a hibát. A nemzetiség (angolul: nationality) és az állampolgárság (citizenship) fogalmak keverése Európa-szerte gondot okoz, a nyugati világban sok helyen képtelenek felfogni, hogyan lehet valaki az állampolgárságától eltérő nemzetiségű. Nekünk, magyaroknak a történelem alakulása megadta a lehetőséget arra, hogy alaposan megértsük, mit is jelent e különbség.

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Pl. útlevél esetében rossz kérdésre csak rossz választ lehet adni. Ugyanis olyanoknak is kiadnak útlevelet az egyes országok, akik nem állampolgáraik:
"citizen kontra national"
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/english_to_hungarian/law:_taxation...

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Másik példa:
„Certificates of Non Citizen Nationality
As the title of the certificate indicates, only a person who is a non-citizen U.S. national (i.e., a U.S. national but not a U.S. citizen) may apply for such a certificate.”
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_781.html



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“U.S. National
All U.S. citizens are U.S. nationals, but there are some who are U.S. nationals but are not U.S. citizens. Therefore, this article explains only about the U.S. nationals that are NOT U.S. citizens.
Definition
U.S. national is a person born in or having ties with "an outlying possession of the United States" which is as of 2005, only American Samoa and Swains Island.”
http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/us-national.html



    Reference: http://mno.hu/velemeny/nemzetiseg-allampolgarsag-458720
Attila Széphegyi
Hungary
Local time: 19:16
Native speaker of: Hungarian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Katarina Peters
1 hr
  -> Köszönöm.

agree  hollowman2
3 hrs
  -> Köszönöm.

agree  Gabriella Endredi
2 days 35 mins
  -> Köszönöm.
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1 min   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
nationality


Explanation:
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tzHIS rtHis
Identification page
Information on the (possibly laminated) identification page, in the languages of the issuing state plus English and French, accompanied by numbers that refer to an index that lists the meaning of these fields in all official EU languages:

1. Surname 2. Forename(s)
3. Nationality 4. Date of birth
5. Sex 6. Place of birth
7. Date of issue 8. Date of expiry
9. Authority 10. Signature of holder

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passports_of_the_European_Union...

Krisztina Lelik
Greece
Local time: 20:16
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
I whish I could divide the points.
Thanks to all of you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  kyanzes
3 mins

neutral  danny boyd: Citizenship
19 mins

agree  Miklós Monostory
3 hrs

agree  Orsolya Bugar-Buday: If you check a Hungarian passport, it says: Állampolgársága/Nationality
18 hrs
  -> nemcsak a magyar, hanem minden európai útlevélben így van

neutral  Attila Széphegyi: Útlevél esetében pontatlan a rovat állampolgárságkénti megnevezése, mivel valójában illetőségről van szó. Pl. US national nem jelent US állampolgárt.
21 hrs
  -> minden európai útlevélben "nationality" rovat szeerpel n
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