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| 03:39 Aug 26, 2009 |
| Hebrew to English translations [PRO] Law/Patents - Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs / Marriage Certificate | |||||||
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| 5 | Jewish |
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| 4 +1 | Jewish converted |
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| 3 +1 | Daughter of Avraham Avinu |
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Jewish Explanation: בת אברהם אבינו When a person is Jewish by conversion his parents names are not considered unless they converted too. Therefore, she is the daughter of Avrahav Avinu. For the purpose of translation I would write only Jewish. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 33 mins (2009-08-26 04:13:32 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- should have been Avraham Avinu. Reference: http://www.kipa.co.il/upload/users_files/907.PDF |
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peer agreement (net): +1Daughter of Avraham Avinu Explanation: בת אברהם אבינו -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 46 mins (2009-08-26 04:26:16 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Jewish-daughter of Avraham Avinu. I would write the all thing. |
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3 hrs confidence: peer agreement (net): +1
peer agreement (net): +1Jewish converted Explanation: It would not be right to translate this with the word Jewish alone because the converted status matters in Jewish law. A Cohen, for example, cannot marry a convert under Orthodox Jewish law. Those not in the know will not understand that בת אברהם אבינו means converted. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 9 hrs (2009-08-26 13:19:32 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Hi, Amir. As a translator, you are not carrying on a disputation on religious matters. You are giving the best translation of the term to be used by anyone who needs that translation for whatever purpose. Whether or not you care what the religious law is about Cohanim marrying converts is immaterial. When I translate documents, I don't always know who the end-user is or who the end-user may need to show the translated document to. So I try to go for the best possible, clearest translation. I end up learning about a lot of things I don't necessarily care about but learning things and knowing things is part and parcel of translating. Don't mean to lecture you, but you DID ask... :-) -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 10 hrs (2009-08-26 14:12:44 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Further to your further note: There is no need to mention Cohen, Levi or Israel. There is a need to say converted. It is an essential piece of information in the original document which you are otherwise censoring. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 10 hrs (2009-08-26 14:14:44 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- The above assumes, of course, that you are committed to giving a true and faithful translation of your original. It is not for the translator to decide that a document doesn't say what it says. |
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