Vinothek

08:13 Jul 31, 2014 

... the first thing that comes to mind is a "Tasting Lounge".

And the second, a Wine Lounge - everything is some kind of lounge, these days :-)

The principle of come in, relax, taste & try and buy

15:17 Jul 30, 2014 

In view of your latest comments and the fact that you will be able to explain the concept in more detail to the guests, couldn't you expand slightly on Helen's wine shop and say Wine bar and shop [or Bar and wine shop]?
See this UK business: Vinoteca Bar and Wine Shop/Vinoteca Wine Bar and Shop
Vinoteca is inspired by the wine bars of Spain and Italy, which often also function as wine shops. The aim was to create a convivial atmosphere in which to serve high quality, characterful wines - also available to take away at retail prices – and simple yet imaginative food created from fresh, seasonal produce. http://www.vinoteca.co.uk/farringdon/
See also a nice explanation here:
Three of the Best | Enotecas - It's an Italian concept, the enoteca, meaning a shop devoted to letting people experience (and then subsequently buy) new and interesting wine. http://www.esquire.co.uk/food-drink/restaurants/280/three-of...
See also Dalla Terra mentioned:
We have set ourselves the mission to bring a unique collection of Italian wines to a wider audience in a friendly, inviting atmosphere.
Dalla Terra is an urbane, contemporary take on the Italian enoteca. http://dallaterra.co.uk/

14:38 Jul 30, 2014 

Yes, that's why I thought of it immediately. Having been to sample the delights myself....

14:34 Jul 30, 2014 

So Waddeston is indeed a Vinothek-type place as it offers all those things you mention.
No, I can't use degustation as it is a bit too specialised. I have to guide English-speaking guests around and although they are often wine journalists (e.g. from China) I cannot pretend to be an expert myself, so my choice of language will be quite simple.

14:21 Jul 30, 2014 

It does say in the blurb I gave you that they offer other things: "You'll find artisan local cheeses, savoury crackers and a tempting selection of gourmet treats, together with a wide range of wine accessories which make ideal gifts." And to the side of the page it mentions all the food and wine events they host. I thought it was all there for you to see: "Experience a tasting of four Rothschild wines in the wine cellars, accompanied with a selection of canapés. Stroll across to the Manor Restaurant where you will be seated for your three course dinner. Each of the delightful courses will be paired with a carefully selected Rothschild wine."

'Degustation' is the wine connoisseur's word. I would use it myself, but you know the tone of the piece you are translating better then we do.

13:37 Jul 30, 2014 

The wine shop at Waddeston looks to my mind more like an ordinary shop in that there is no prominent counter inviting people to sample the wine, at least not on the photo. This reinforces my belief that a Vinothek is indeed a hybrid, craftily combining the tasting and the selling elements. BTW the Germans like the fancy French word Degustation for tasting but I don't think I'll be using that is it is acoustically a bit too near "disgusting"!

01:03 Jul 30, 2014 

I would say a Vinothek is a wine bar. "Theke" is bar and if you've been drinking you probably shorten it up a little.

17:11 Jul 29, 2014 

It looks not dissimilar to the one at Waddesdon. Most wine shops of this kind offer wine-tasting and other produce from the estate or local environs, or other high-end goodies. (Yum!)

16:40 Jul 29, 2014 

Hi Elli - I'm almost certain that it will be understood by wine drinkers around the world (see the references I posted). Just as well as the fashion-conscious understand words like boutique - and anyone wanting a coffee will understand bistro.

Agreed, it may not be understood by the chip butty, deep-fried Mars bar, parmo and brown ale fraternity, but I don't really think that they are the target group :-) Parmo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmo

Wine aficionados will certainly know what they have before them.

16:34 Jul 29, 2014 

http://www.heinze.de/architekturobjekt/vinothek-im-weingut-m...

This is the kind of thing and it is more than a Verkaufsraum. As philgoddard points out, it is not a cellar and not really a wine bar although some of these places do have that function i.e. you go along to drink some wine and don't end up buying any - this is also called a "Weinbistro".

13:25 Jul 29, 2014 

... there's a wine tasting festival called "Vinoptikum", organised by "Vinorama". It also calls itself a "Weintestival", which, for me, takes it all a bit too far :-)

12:54 Jul 29, 2014 

...also has a nice international sound to it.
After all, the Romans are supposed to have brought vines and wines to Franconia.
A tradition upheld by the monasteries - in the Cellaria of which the wine, ales, spirits and foods they produced (or collected as tithes) were stored (and sold)

11:28 Jul 29, 2014 

You could just go with 'Wine Shop', such as here: http://www.chilfordhall.co.uk/cgi-bin/ch/index.html The Waddesdon Manor selling its Rothschild wines calls their very posh one a wine shop, too. As so often, the simpler the terminology the posher the venue: http://www.waddesdon.org.uk/shop-and-eat/wine-shop

11:00 Jul 29, 2014 

Someone will probably come up with
"The Franconian Wine Experience" as a generic for them all :-)

09:19 Jul 29, 2014 

wine cellar/wine bar - that said, most wine cellars have a testing room and sales facilities

08:31 Jul 29, 2014 

Do you have a sentence containing this word?
It sounds like a showroom to me - it's not a winery (the place where wine is made), and a wine bar is where you buy wine for consumption on the premises.

08:25 Jul 29, 2014