Satz

English translation: turbine generator set / turbo-generator set / turbo generator

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German term or phrase:Satz
English translation:turbine generator set / turbo-generator set / turbo generator
Entered by: Jacek Kloskowski

18:43 Mar 3, 2017
German to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Energy / Power Generation / visualization system
German term or phrase: Satz
This is from a text about hydroelectric power plants and the visualization system used to help operate the plant. I don't understand which part of the power plant the word "Satz" refers to.
Zentrale = control room, Fassung = catchment.
Any ideas what Satz could be?

Unser Visualisierungssystem ist in drei Paketvarianten verfügbar, die sich mit mehreren Optionals ergänzen und kombinieren lassen.
Visualisierung (3 Anlagenbereiche: Zentrale + Satz + Fassung, einfaches Fenstermanagement, einfache Kurvenanzeige, einfache Meldeanzeige)

Thank you!
Simona de Logu
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:25
turbine generator set / turbo-generator set / turbo generator
Explanation:
IMO. should be: "Turbosatz":

Turbosatz

Turbosatz: Hoch-, Mittel- und dreiteilige Niederdruckturbine mit dem Generator im Hintergrund

Historischer Turbosatz von Parsons mit 1 MW
Als Turbosatz wird in der Kraftwerkstechnik die Kombination von schnellrotierenden Maschinen bezeichnet, die der eigentlichen Stromerzeugung dienen. Ein Turbosatz besteht in der Regel aus

einer Turbine (Dampf- oder Gasturbine) und
einem Generator,
deren Wellen in manchen Fällen über eine Kupplung verbunden sind. Als Erfinder gilt der Brite Charles Parsons, der in den 1880er-Jahren die nach ihm benannte Parsons-Turbine mit einem Generator kombinierte. Erstmals wurden Turbosätze in der Forth Banks Power Station in Newcastle upon Tyne eingesetzt

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbosatz


NOTE: sometimes you can find the term "turboset'' but is seems it is a language word-for-word calque because it is mostly found in Siemens docs, ger.->eng. translations or DIN originated and translated patents.

The proper version of the above is "turbo generator" as seen below:


Turbo generator

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The construction of a Ganz water Turbo Generator in Budapest in 1886

Ottó Bláthy in the armature of a Ganz turbo generator (1904)

A Siemens-brand power plant turbogenerator

RP4 turbogenerator, a 500W/24V generator for a steam locomotive; dynamo on the left, turbine on the right

Engraving of Parson's first 1 megawatt "turbogenerator" alternator driven by a steam turbine. It was installed at a plant in Elberfeld, Germany.
A turbo generator is the combination of a turbine directly connected to an electric generator for the generation of electric power. Large steam-powered turbo generators provide the majority of the world's electricity and are also used by steam-powered turbo-electric ships.[1]

Smaller turbo-generators with gas turbines are often used as auxiliary power units. For base loads diesel generators are usually preferred, since they offer better fuel efficiency, but, on the other hand, diesel generators have a lower power density and hence, require more space.

The efficiency of larger gas turbine plants can be enhanced by using a combined cycle, where the hot exhaust gases are used to generate steam which drives another turbo generator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_generator

The TM2500 is a mobile aeroderivative gas turbine generator set available for both 50 and 60 Hz applications that functions both as a fast power solution or for generating backup power during natural disaster relief, plant shutdowns, or grid instability.

https://powergen.gepower.com/products/aeroderivative-gas-tur...

Essentially, from a turbine-generator (TG) point of view, there is no difference between the maintenance at either an EfW or wood-fired biomass power plant. “With the steam turbine generator set, or turboset, there are no differences between maintenance operations for waste-to-energy (WTE) facilities and wood-fired biomass plants,” says Hanno Garbe, senior sales manager for steam turbine units at Siemens Energy.

http://biomassmagazine.com/articles/11338/tuning-a-power-sta...

Turbo-generator set, designed and developed by Sir C A Parsons.

http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/starobject.html?oid=28...

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Jacek Kloskowski
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Local time: 06:25
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Thank you this makes sense and thank you to everyone who helped make sense of this!!
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4 +1turbine generator set / turbo-generator set / turbo generator
Jacek Kloskowski
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machine set


Explanation:
(See my discussion contribution.) The "Anlagenbereiche" of the power station must include the control room/centre, the machine set (rotating machines) and, I suppose, the reservoir if that's where the water to drive the machines comes from.


    https://www.drschmid-acoustics.com/english-1/current-projects/
    Reference: http://www.stmoritz-energie.ch/en/about-us/portrait/electric...
Oliver Walter
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:25
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
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turbine generator set / turbo-generator set / turbo generator


Explanation:
IMO. should be: "Turbosatz":

Turbosatz

Turbosatz: Hoch-, Mittel- und dreiteilige Niederdruckturbine mit dem Generator im Hintergrund

Historischer Turbosatz von Parsons mit 1 MW
Als Turbosatz wird in der Kraftwerkstechnik die Kombination von schnellrotierenden Maschinen bezeichnet, die der eigentlichen Stromerzeugung dienen. Ein Turbosatz besteht in der Regel aus

einer Turbine (Dampf- oder Gasturbine) und
einem Generator,
deren Wellen in manchen Fällen über eine Kupplung verbunden sind. Als Erfinder gilt der Brite Charles Parsons, der in den 1880er-Jahren die nach ihm benannte Parsons-Turbine mit einem Generator kombinierte. Erstmals wurden Turbosätze in der Forth Banks Power Station in Newcastle upon Tyne eingesetzt

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbosatz


NOTE: sometimes you can find the term "turboset'' but is seems it is a language word-for-word calque because it is mostly found in Siemens docs, ger.->eng. translations or DIN originated and translated patents.

The proper version of the above is "turbo generator" as seen below:


Turbo generator

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The construction of a Ganz water Turbo Generator in Budapest in 1886

Ottó Bláthy in the armature of a Ganz turbo generator (1904)

A Siemens-brand power plant turbogenerator

RP4 turbogenerator, a 500W/24V generator for a steam locomotive; dynamo on the left, turbine on the right

Engraving of Parson's first 1 megawatt "turbogenerator" alternator driven by a steam turbine. It was installed at a plant in Elberfeld, Germany.
A turbo generator is the combination of a turbine directly connected to an electric generator for the generation of electric power. Large steam-powered turbo generators provide the majority of the world's electricity and are also used by steam-powered turbo-electric ships.[1]

Smaller turbo-generators with gas turbines are often used as auxiliary power units. For base loads diesel generators are usually preferred, since they offer better fuel efficiency, but, on the other hand, diesel generators have a lower power density and hence, require more space.

The efficiency of larger gas turbine plants can be enhanced by using a combined cycle, where the hot exhaust gases are used to generate steam which drives another turbo generator.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_generator

The TM2500 is a mobile aeroderivative gas turbine generator set available for both 50 and 60 Hz applications that functions both as a fast power solution or for generating backup power during natural disaster relief, plant shutdowns, or grid instability.

https://powergen.gepower.com/products/aeroderivative-gas-tur...

Essentially, from a turbine-generator (TG) point of view, there is no difference between the maintenance at either an EfW or wood-fired biomass power plant. “With the steam turbine generator set, or turboset, there are no differences between maintenance operations for waste-to-energy (WTE) facilities and wood-fired biomass plants,” says Hanno Garbe, senior sales manager for steam turbine units at Siemens Energy.

http://biomassmagazine.com/articles/11338/tuning-a-power-sta...

Turbo-generator set, designed and developed by Sir C A Parsons.

http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/starobject.html?oid=28...



Jacek Kloskowski
United States
Local time: 06:25
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Thank you this makes sense and thank you to everyone who helped make sense of this!!

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agree  phillee: Just "generator set"- lots of refs in Internet to this and general enough for original
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