Das Reich der Mitte

English translation: Land of the Dragon

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German term or phrase:Das Reich der Mitte
English translation:Land of the Dragon
Entered by: dkfmmuc

10:34 Apr 8, 2015
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: Das Reich der Mitte
In einem Zeitungsartikel geht es um die Kraft des aufstrebenden chinesischen Marktes. Ein Unternehmer arbeitet die Bedeutung des Landes und die kulturellen Unterschiede heraus.

Um nicht dauernd das Wort "China" zu wiederholen, greift der Autor auch zu Synonymen. Er nennt China "das Reich der Mitte".

In Wörterbüchern findet sich leider nur ein recht veralteter Begriff. Deshalb: Wie nennt Ihr denn das Reich der Mitte in der englischen Übersetzung im Zusammenhang mit Wirtschaftsberichten und Interviews?

Hilfe wäre nett.
dkfmmuc
Local time: 22:01
Land of the Dragon
Explanation:
https://books.google.de/books?id=5rBEAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA7&lpg=PA7...

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2005-06-26/news...

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/books/unyielding-land-...

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Dragon
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Berit Kostka, PhD
Türkiye
Local time: 23:01
Grading comment
Thank you for the support and dedication!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +6The Peoples' Republic
Lancashireman
3 +6Middle Kingdom
Ramey Rieger (X)
3 +5Land of the Dragon
Berit Kostka, PhD
3Cathay
Andrew Bramhall
2the world's most populous country
Jonathan MacKerron


Discussion entries: 21





  

Answers


4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +6
Middle Kingdom


Explanation:
Although I can't imagine why

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http://www.dict.cc/?s=Reich der Mitte

Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 22:01
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: Sounds a bit too Tolkienesque to me!
1 min
  -> Aw, c'mon Oliver, that was Middle Earth! Worlds apart!

agree  Sam Townshend: yes, or 'Central Kingdom'. Here are a few more ideas which show it is a moden term (also note the number of journal articles putting it into Google): http://www.proz.com/kudoz/English/poetry_literature/2675455-...
5 mins
  -> Thanks Sam, my confidence was quavering there for a minute!

agree  Edgar Bettridge: Hi Ramey - yes I agree!
9 mins
  -> Thanks!!

neutral  BrigitteHilgner: Reminds me of Egypt. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Kingdom
2 hrs
  -> Although China is at the top of the list. Seems like everyone is reminded of something else, strange, don't you think?

agree  jccantrell: This is how I always heard it in the USA. --XX-- John Charles
3 hrs
  -> Thanks JCCantrell - what exactly does the JC stand for? (If you wanna tell)// Thank you! Strange, I always imagined you to be female.

agree  Craig Meulen: Sounds completely normal to me.
4 hrs
  -> Yes, it does to me, too. thanks Craig!

agree  gangels (X)
1 day 1 hr

agree  Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
4 days
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Cathay


Explanation:
You could use the name by which the ancient kingdom was known, and which the airline carries;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathay

Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:01
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for the suggestion. Sorry that I haven't lived in Asia yet only visited two countries. Therefore I know the great airline (and their great customer service) but never heard Cathay as denomination for the whole country.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Diana Obermeyer: I have heard of the airline, but had to look this up. In an article, this would really confuse me. I don't think the average reader would know this name.
10 mins
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +5
Land of the Dragon


Explanation:
https://books.google.de/books?id=5rBEAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA7&lpg=PA7...

http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2005-06-26/news...

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/books/unyielding-land-...

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Dragon

Berit Kostka, PhD
Türkiye
Local time: 23:01
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thank you for the support and dedication!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for this powerful suggestion. It indeed reflects the idea of a growing economy and an "Asian powerhouse" like Ramey stated in a comment.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lancashireman: Another good variation
4 mins
  -> Thank you :o)

agree  TonyTK: Yes, has a nice ring to it. Interestingly, both Wales and China also go by the name of "Land of the Red Dragon"
12 mins
  -> Thank you Tony :o) Although I thought only Wales has the "red" dragon.

agree  franglish: Best reflects the power of its economy
1 hr
  -> Thanks franglish :o)

agree  Ramey Rieger (X): I believe this is the best solution considering the article has a positive slant. Well done!// Above all, the dragon is powerful, unpredictable and destructive. But it is also romantic, fabulous and can be healing. I LOVE Jackie Chan!
2 hrs
  -> Thank you very much Ramey :o) For me the dragon is the one symbol for China boiling the very essence of the country down to a point. Positive, negative, Jackie Chan and all. If you'd ask around, I think it is what most people associate with China.GoJackie

agree  Gudrun Wolfrath
3 hrs
  -> Danke Gudrun :o)

neutral  Craig Meulen: I beg to differ. In an article on the economy, "Land of the Dragon" sounds a bit aggressive. I wouldn't use in the asker's context. However, you cite references where it is used. So I'll vote 'neutral' here.
4 hrs
  -> Thanks for your comment Craig :o)
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
the world's most populous country


Explanation:
another one you might sprinkle in here and there

Jonathan MacKerron
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 28
Notes to answerer
Asker: Yes, indeed. This suggestion also reflects the economic power and the huge population of China. Honestly spoken this will be a great challenge for Europe.

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
The Peoples' Republic


Explanation:
The Peoples' Republic [of China]

The usual way of varying the name 'China' within a long text. Definitely not the 'Empire of the Centre/Middle', a phrase that is unknown in EN.

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Also, the Asian Tiger, although of course there are several such economies.

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Ideally, you need several variations for your article. here is an example of how The Guardian approaches the same problem:
Chinese aid to the Pacific has exceeded $1.9bn in the past decade, according to new research that reveals the Asian powerhouse’s growing footprint in Australia’s neighbourhood.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/02/china-increases...

Two more:
Concerns over the extent of the Chinese economic slowdown have long dogged the income prospects of the world’s major mining and energy companies. The Asian powerhouse posted its slowest rate of growth for almost a quarter of a century in 2014, at 7.4%...
http://www.fool.co.uk/investing/2015/03/25/7-2-reasons-to-se...

China lowered its 2015 growth projections to “around 7 percent” on 5 March - the slowest rate in 24 years - amid fears that a slowdown in the Asian powerhouse</> could dampen economic ties with Africa.
http://www.fdiintelligence.com/News/Despite-slowing-growth-C...

A snap survey in this reasonably erudite UK household revealed that no-one understood the reference to 'Middle Kingdom'. I am surprised at its purported rate of recognition amongst American site users.

Slight tweak to my headline suggestion:
the People's Republic (lower case 'the' and singular apostrophe)
OR
the PRC (accepted abbreviation)

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"the text is represented in both countries PRC and Taiwan"
the Lands of the Dragon?
the Asian Tigers
the Asian powerhouse

Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:01
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 57
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for the great contribution and the idea.

Asker: Thanks for the dedication and the suggestion. I am sorry to say that the issuer of the text is represented in both countries PRC and Taiwan. Therefore I wouldn't like to reopen old wounds.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ramey Rieger (X): Asian powerhouse is quite appropriate. I hope dkfmmuc also recognized this in the heat of the discussion. Middle Kingdom just proves that America is no longer a British colony.
1 min

agree  Natalie M
9 mins

agree  BrigitteHilgner
2 hrs

agree  Craig Meulen
4 hrs

agree  philgoddard: People's.
5 hrs

agree  Wendy Streitparth: Prefer Asian powerhouse to PRC in this context.
7 hrs
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