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Speisenfolge

English translation: menu planning

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
German term or phrase:Speisenfolge
English translation:menu planning
Entered by: conny

11:24 Nov 21, 2014
German to English translations [PRO]
Cooking / Culinary
German term or phrase: Speisenfolge
aus dem Zeugnis eines Kochs, Lehrfach

wer kann außer "sequence of dishes" noch was bringen?
conny
Germany
Local time: 06:46
menu planning
Explanation:
I don't think you'd just see the word "menu" as the title of a course module.
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philgoddard
United States
Grading comment
trifft es sehr gut
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +8menu
Yorkshireman
4 +5Order of courses
Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET
4 +4menu planning
philgoddard
3 +1coordination of dishes
Michael Martin, MA
4 -1Menu progression
Kelly Burt
Summary of reference entries provided
Speisenfolge
Johanna Timm, PhD

Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
Order of courses


Explanation:
I have seen this used a lot - especially in multi-course menus (5,6,7 courses or more)

Lesley Robertson MA, Dip Trans IoLET
Austria
Local time: 06:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 22

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kelly Burt
1 min
agree  Silke Walter: Stimme zu, wobei "menu" ggf. auch ginge.
4 mins
agree  BrigitteHilgner
1 hr
agree  Donald Jacobson
3 hrs
agree  gangels (X)
1 day 7 hrs
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Menu progression


Explanation:
Perhaps, or menu sequence might be an option as well.

Kelly Burt
United States
Local time: 21:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Edith Kelly: progression ??
2 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
coordination of dishes


Explanation:
...might be what we're looking for. See link below:

"Multi tasking is importance of practical exam in one day. Time management, coordination of dishes, putting the whole menu together is the main focus. Elements can be flexible as long as blocks are covered in the whole program. 5 hour timeframe works for most students."
http://www.bccat.ca/pubs/Professional Cook Training AC Minut...

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 00:46
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Michaela Pschierer-Barnfather: Passt vom Kontext am ehesten
31 mins
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
menu planning


Explanation:
I don't think you'd just see the word "menu" as the title of a course module.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
trifft es sehr gut

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: see reference below- I think this describes best what "Speisenfolge" encompasses in the context of culinary training
2 hrs
agree  Armorel Young
3 hrs
agree  Ramey Rieger (X): Since it's my suggestion, I guess I have to agree.
20 hrs
agree  SuzukiBandit
2 days 21 hrs
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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +8
menu


Explanation:
I think this is probably the easiest and most appropriate translation.

You could, of course, also use "courses"

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Note added at 9 mins (2014-11-21 11:34:07 GMT)
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I don't think that order or sequence needs to be used, as a menu is gives precisely the order of serving.

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Note added at 15 mins (2014-11-21 11:40:18 GMT)
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The trainee chef will probably have been requested to make a menu for a specified occasion - consisting of a starter (possibly also an amuse gueule), soup, main dish + sides + salad (or fish dish and meat dish + sides + salad), a dessert and possibly also something like a cheeseboard to finish.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:26:59 GMT)
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Very informative reference document:

http://www.cityandguilds.com/qualifications-and-apprenticesh...

The term menu is used throughout - for preparation, planning & policy, costing based on ingredients, compilation with healthy foods, varied menus and outdoor catering, menu production requirements, menu structures and loads more.

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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:28:35 GMT)
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Sorry, the link takes you only halfway there - I hope this one works

http://tinyurl.com/18r

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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:29:56 GMT)
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Another attempt:

http://cdn.cityandguilds.com/ProductDocuments/Hospitality_an...

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Note added at 5 hrs (2014-11-21 16:30:27 GMT)
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Tested it - it works!!!

Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 06:46
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 24

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  franglish
6 mins
  -> Merci!
agree  seehand
1 hr
  -> Danke!
agree  Edith Kelly
2 hrs
  -> Hi Edith, THX
agree  Lonnie Legg: if what is meant (context!!) is the "Abstimmung" of the discrete dishes composing a meal is meant.
2 hrs
  -> THX
agree  Sanni Kruger (X): In my book is a "Speisenfolge" a "menu".
2 hrs
  -> Good book! :-)
agree  SuzukiBandit
3 hrs
  -> Thanks
agree  Susanne Schiewe
4 hrs
  -> Thank you, Susanne
agree  Harald Moelzer (medical-translator)
6 hrs
  -> Danke!
neutral  Ramey Rieger (X): In a testimonial or certificate, this doesn't work as an achievement or a course absolved. Sorry, my friend!// Hmmm, in my humble opinion, it's still a stretch. Have a good weekend!
23 hrs
  -> It does in combination with the stuff in my references - and as a plural, menus// Ebenso, Schreddern und Blätter kompostieren ist angesagt.
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Reference comments


6 hrs
Reference: Speisenfolge

Reference information:
Lernfeld 3.3
Koch/Köchin 3. Ausbildungsjahr
Speisenfolge
Zeitrichtwert: 60 Stunden

Die Schülerinnen und Schüler können aus einem Warenkorb eine Speisenfolge erstellen. Sie wenden Menüregeln an und beachten ökonomische Gesichtspunkte. Sie planen den Arbeitsablauf zur Zubereitung der Speisenfolge. Sie erstellen Menüs für unterschiedliche Anlässe und können korrespondierende Getränke vorschlagen. Sie gestalten Menükarten. Die Schülerinnen und Schüler wirken bei der Gästeberatung mit; dies erfolgt auch in der Fremdsprache.Sie führen Berechnungen durch.

Inhalte:
− Menüregeln
− Planung, Gestaltung und Kontrolle von Arbeitsabläufen
− Korrespondierende Getränke
− Rechtsvorschriften
− Berechnungen (Rezepturen, Mengen, Kosten, Erträge)
− Fachsprache
− Fremdsprache
− EDV
http://kochklub-hamburg.de/downloads/documents/pdf/KMK_Rahme...

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 41
Note to reference poster
Asker: vielen Dank für die Informationen

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