herzhafter Baumkuchenmantel

English translation: ... (coated) in a hearty pyramid cake

14:13 Sep 13, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
Cooking / Culinary
German term or phrase: herzhafter Baumkuchenmantel
Entry on menu under snacks reads:
Raeucherlachsparfait in herzhaftem Baumkuchenmantel
stephkg (X)
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:32
English translation:... (coated) in a hearty pyramid cake
Explanation:
... coated in oder einfach nur in, würde ich sagen.
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Barbara Wiebking
Germany
Local time: 22:32
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1tasty layer-cake/tree cake
phillee
4 +1pinstripe jacket
Sarah Bessioud
3 +1in savory Baumkuchen (cake)
szkott
4pyramid cake
vptrans
3... (coated) in a hearty pyramid cake
Barbara Wiebking
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Kim Metzger

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42 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
... (coated) in a hearty pyramid cake


Explanation:
... coated in oder einfach nur in, würde ich sagen.

Example sentence(s):
  • Geeistes Moccaparfait im Baumkuchenmantel und Vanilleschaum - Pyramid cake stuffed with iced mocha parfait and vanilla sauce
  • Champagnerparfait im Baumkuchenmantel mit gebackenem Schokoladentrüffel - Parfait of champagne coated with pyramid cake garnished with a baked chocolate truffel

    Reference: http://drei-husaren.at/index.php?x=17&k=33&l=de
    Reference: http://www.golfhotel-stromberg.de/fileadmin/pdf/Gourmetkarte...
Barbara Wiebking
Germany
Local time: 22:32
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
tasty layer-cake/tree cake


Explanation:
As cake is sweet (as aopposed to savoury), I would use tasty here.


Example sentence(s):
  • ... with a coating of tasty tree-cake.
phillee
Local time: 21:32
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nicole Schnell
16 mins
  -> ta very much

neutral  Margaret Marks: It should be savoury (not sweet), because it's with smoked salmon! - No, it won't be sweet. Herzhaft means savoury here.
12 hrs
  -> The salmon is savoury but is the cake not sweet?
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20 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
in savory Baumkuchen (cake)


Explanation:
I think Baumkuchen shouldn't be transalted, since it is also in English. It's like translating "parfait", in my opinion. You could add "cake", if you think it won't be understood on its own, i.e. "Baumkuchen cake".

I think "savory" is also accurate here.

Savory or savoury, depending on your audience.

And much like "salmon in puff pastry", it should be "smoked salmon parfait in savory Baumkuchen (cake)", in my opinion.

Example sentence(s):
  • Traditionally, Baumkuchen is made on a spit by brushing on even layers of batter and then rotating the spit around a heat source.

    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumkuchen
    Reference: http://allrecipes.com//Recipe/baumkuchen/Detail.aspx
szkott
Austria
Local time: 22:32
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Rebecca Garber
36 mins
  -> Thanks, Rebecca!
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1 day 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
pyramid cake


Explanation:
Smoked Salmon Parfait served in a hearty pyramid cake:
Baumkuchen is from what I can tell, gen. translated as pyramid cake.

vptrans
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1 day 3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
pinstripe jacket


Explanation:
Admittedly, this is a hard one but maybe this is an imaginative solution that may fit.

As this is served as a snack or light dish, I think it would look more like the photos supplied by writeaway (a plated dish) than by szkott (perhaps on a buffet). In my opinion, the 'mantel' forms a jacket around all of the parfait, or just around the edges. The fact that it is a Baumkuchenmantel would imply that this is striped, due to the technique of cooking the Baumkuchen in layers to provide the 'ringed' appearance , a little like a cross-sectional tree trunk (which is where the name of the cake originated).

The fact that it is herzhaft would imply that the jacket is savoury as opposed to sweet. IMO, it is there simply to reassure diners that they are going to get a slightly different version of the traditionally sweet cake. I am not sure that you need to add savoury if you are not mentioning Baumkuchen because it wouldn't cross anyones mind that the jacket could be anything other than savoury.

Due to the fact that Baumkuchen, pyramid cake or tree cake mean absolutely nothing to the average English-speaking diner, I feel that none of these portray the idea of what the diner is going to eat when he orders this. So why not opt for something that portrays the right idea, sounds a little bit dressy (sorry, no pun intended) and retains an element of mystery? Smoked salmon parfait in a pin-striped jacket certainly sounds appetising to me ;-)

Sarah Bessioud
Germany
Local time: 22:32
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 60

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  szkott: I think you are actually right about the presentation and I like the idea. Good work! (not sure about the plated/buffet comment - in my picture, although I agree now that it is probably not presented this way, it *could* be served plated this way)
18 hrs
  -> Thank you for the compliment szkott. What I meant by plated was an individual portion, as opposed to a larger salmon parfait which is placed on a buffet for everyone to help themselves. Sorry if I misinterpreted what you meant ;-)
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Reference comments


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Reference: Info

Reference information:
Baumkuchen is a kind of layered cake. It is a traditional dessert in many countries throughout Europe and is also a popular snack and dessert in Japan. The characteristic golden rings that appear when sliced give the cake its German name, Baumkuchen, which literally translates to "tree cake" or "log cake".[1] Although its European origins are disputed, the cake preparation traces its roots back to Ancient Greece where cake batter was poured in layers on to tree logs and cooked over an open fire.[1] It is also known as the "King of Cakes."[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baumkuchen


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Kim Metzger
Mexico
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