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From a ToC: Zielsetzung vs. Ziele

English translation: Goal vs. objectives

21:21 Nov 2, 2018
German to English translations [Non-PRO]
Bus/Financial - Business/Commerce (general) / Confidential report
German term or phrase: From a ToC: Zielsetzung vs. Ziele
Hey there,

I am translating some longish confidential assessment material on retail procedures and operations, and in the ToC it says at exactly the same hierarchical level of the numbering classification, at a distance of some 4 headline items apart from one another:

Zielsetzung
......
.....
....
Ziele

Does this mean Strategy vs. Objectives? I mean obviously it does, but how to properly phrase this?

There's the overarching strategy for the report, and then there's the more detailed objectives that define fulfillment of the strategy and how to get there.

Anyway, see I cannot put the same word twice.

Cheers,

Sebastian Witte
Sebastian Witte
Germany
Local time: 07:23
English translation:Goal vs. objectives
Explanation:
The explanation below makes sense to me.
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=tMLcW6zsG4iVzwKw-...
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Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 01:23
Grading comment
I looked at your link and consider it a convincing explanation. Thank you everybody.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4aims and goals
David Hollywood
4definition of an objective vs. the objective itself
Alexander Schleber (X)
3Goal vs. objectives
Michael Martin, MA
3objectives vs. targets
Yorkshireman


Discussion entries: 4





  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Goal vs. objectives


Explanation:
The explanation below makes sense to me.
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=tMLcW6zsG4iVzwKw-...

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 01:23
Meets criteria
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 159
Grading comment
I looked at your link and consider it a convincing explanation. Thank you everybody.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
objectives vs. targets


Explanation:
The aims that are set (objectives) and the concrete aims to be achieved (targets)

Example:
Objective is growth
Target is at least 10% growth

Yorkshireman
Germany
Local time: 07:23
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
aims and goals


Explanation:
I would say

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and not Non-pro

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aber das is mir Wurst

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eigenlicht nicht, da es um eine ziemlich schwierige Sache geht....

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eigentlich und wie dem auch sei


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macht mir nichts aus und hoffentlich hat's dir geholfen

David Hollywood
Local time: 02:23
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
definition of an objective vs. the objective itself


Explanation:
The same can also be said as "the definition of goals vs. the goals themselves". This is the "long" but absolutely correct form.

Alexander Schleber (X)
Belgium
Local time: 07:23
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks very much. I still don't really know. Maybe this one would have needed to be made PRO.

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