ungestielten Antennen
English translation: directly attached antennae
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| 3 | antennae attached directly (to the hilt/handle/pommel/whatever) |
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| 2 | not attached to {or, part of} the tang |
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| 1 | bare hilts with no grips |
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not attached to {or, part of} the tang Explanation: I have seen 'Stiel' used to describe the tang of a sword. This is the extension of the sword metal that goes beyond the hilt and is used as part of the handle. It may be that this 'ungestielt' term means that the spiral pieces at the top are not part of or attached to the tang of the sword. Sorry, this is just above a guess. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tang_%28weaponry%29 |
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| ungestielte Antennen antennae attached directly (to the hilt/handle/pommel/whatever) Explanation: I'm copy-pasting my comment in the Discussion box above: 'Ungestielt' makes me think of 'sessile' in the botany context, which of course would be completely off tangent here. However, the word 'sessile' prompts me to think along the lines of 'attached directly to'. Antennae attached directly to the hilt/handle/pommel/whatever. |
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bare hilts with no grips Explanation: If you look in an etymological dictionary like Duden, both "Stiel" and "Antenne" come from roots meaning "rod", but "Stiel" is used to mean "handle", something that is meant to be gripped. And "Schwertstiel" means "sword handle" (try Google Images). Ignoring its botannical meaning, "ungestielt" may mean "not converted into a handle".La Tene swords were found with no organic material (bindings etc.) used to form a grip, with the sword handle just a bare metal rod (see web link): "In virtually all Celtic sword finds, the organic (bone, wood, horn, etc.) hilt and grip materials are non-existent." -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 17 hrs (2011-09-23 11:12:33 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- When I wrote that, I imagined that "antenna" might refer to the bare rod of the sword's handle. The book you refer to, though, suggests that the "antenna pommel" are the two sticky-out bits on the end of the hilt, which do indeed look like insect antennae. OK, I should have checked that out first. You wrote "a kind of pommel between the hilt and the blade", which confused me. I'm pretty sure that the pommel is the part on the end of the handle (try a dictionary). I think the crossways piece between the blade and the hilt is called the "guard" or "cross-guard", because it's there to stop an opponent's blade sliding up your sword and finding your hand. (In the pictures of La Tene swords, both ends of the handle (guards and pommel) look the same - same sticky-out bits) If antennae means the things on the pommel/guard and not the hilt, I suppose it's possible that "ungestielt", means something like "non-extended", non-branching" or "non-curving", although I'm not sure exactly why your text would note this detail. Perhaps the best bet would to look for English-language information on this type of sword. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 17 hrs (2011-09-23 11:15:58 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- I suppose it's possible that "ungestielt", means something like "non-extended", non-branching" or "non-curving" Or, for that matter, "not thin and/or straight" Reference: http://www.myarmoury.com/review_alb_latene.html |
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