production (here)

English translation: production kitchen

13:07 May 1, 2013
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Tourism & Travel / hotels
French term or phrase: production (here)
This is used in the context of describing the work of banqueting staff and facilities in a hotel. Two of the staff are described as 'chefs de cuisines production'.
Could this be translated as 'head of the kitchen production teams', or are they just 'chefs in the hotel kitchens', maybe?

The term also occurs when describing banquets:
'Pour l’occasion, 12 500 pièces de pâtisserie, 5 000 brochettes, 3 500 pièces de poissons, crevettes et huîtres… ont été produites par les cuisines production.
Preuve de la formidable réactivité du département des banquets.'
mportal
Local time: 21:53
English translation:production kitchen
Explanation:
See this:
http://www.catering-glossary.com/p/production-kitchen/
Seems a good possibility in a big hotel such as this, which might well contract out initial preparation and only cook or reheat and serve on the premises.
(Good old Google!)

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Note added at 19 mins (2013-05-01 13:26:26 GMT)
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Sorry, this would not be contracted out in the context you give but it still seems not implausible that there might be more than one stage involved, depending on the layout of the hotel and its facilities.

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Note added at 55 mins (2013-05-01 14:03:02 GMT)
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I'm not a specialist, but pastry in particular requires certain equipment and it seems not unlikely that the brochettes and seafood bits might have been produced in a different kitchen with other facilities.
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Victoria Britten
France
Local time: 22:53
Grading comment
Thank you very much, Victoria
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Summary of answers provided
3 +3production kitchen
Victoria Britten
5 -2chef of the kitchen production team
Patricia Urrutia
4 -1chief cook
Louis Gwiango


  

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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
chef of the kitchen production team


Explanation:
You can leave it as you put it. It is a good translation.

Patricia Urrutia
Colombia
Local time: 16:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: This wouldn't sound natural in EN; a chef might be 'in' / 'on' the team, but not 'of' it (makes it sound as if you think s/he is in charge). No, there are 2 of them, so unlikely to be the head of anything; and it's a prod. kitchen, not kitchen production.
36 mins
  -> So the only thing you desagree with is the use of the preposition? is the word chef OK? the text makes me think he/she is the chief of cuisin production. In fact that is what the text means to say.

disagree  B D Finch: Agree with Tony's comment above.//I think that linguists would generally agree that prepositions matter. "Chef" does not equal "chief" here (there are two of them).
19 hrs
  -> The only thing you object is the use of the preposition? According to the text he/she is the chief of kitchen production. That is what the asker intents to say.
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
cuisine production
production kitchen


Explanation:
See this:
http://www.catering-glossary.com/p/production-kitchen/
Seems a good possibility in a big hotel such as this, which might well contract out initial preparation and only cook or reheat and serve on the premises.
(Good old Google!)

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Note added at 19 mins (2013-05-01 13:26:26 GMT)
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Sorry, this would not be contracted out in the context you give but it still seems not implausible that there might be more than one stage involved, depending on the layout of the hotel and its facilities.

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Note added at 55 mins (2013-05-01 14:03:02 GMT)
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I'm not a specialist, but pastry in particular requires certain equipment and it seems not unlikely that the brochettes and seafood bits might have been produced in a different kitchen with other facilities.

Victoria Britten
France
Local time: 22:53
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Grading comment
Thank you very much, Victoria
Notes to answerer
Asker: They do specify, at one point, that they make everything from scratch out of fresh produce. Would this contradict the term 'production kitchen'?


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Yes, 'chefs in the...' "production kitchen' simply implies a kitchen where things are produced in large quanitites, and not necessarily for immediate consumption; as distinct from a 'call-order chef', for example.
39 mins
  -> Thanks, Tony!

agree  philgoddard
2 hrs
  -> Thanks!

agree  Yolanda Broad
2 days 3 hrs
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53 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
chief cook


Explanation:
The source uses many words to express a simple concept in English. One should not be tied down to the meanings of the constituent words.

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Note added at 58 mins (2013-05-01 14:05:27 GMT)
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A chief cook oversees the production of food at times right from the purchase or harvest of raw foodstuff to when it is prepared in the kitchen.

Louis Gwiango
Cameroon
Local time: 22:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: That might be 'chef de cuisine', but as we know there are 2 people who are both 'chefs' in the 'production kitchen', I think it is unlikely they are both 'chief cooks'. In any case, where a hierarchy is involved, we'd more usually talk about 'head chef'.
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