confluent

English translation: confluence

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French term or phrase:confluent
English translation:confluence

16:09 Mar 16, 2012
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French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Tourism & Travel
French term or phrase: confluent
'Segré est située au confluent de deux rivières au nord de la vallée de la Loire.' - Try as I may I just can't find a way of making this sound natural in English.
Karen Henry
Local time: 18:47
confluence
Explanation:
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/confluence
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philgoddard
United States
Grading comment
Thanks - I had thought of this but it seemed too 'geographical' at the time and not very poetical! The other synonyms seemed clumsy to me. Now reading it written by you it seems perfect!
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Summary of answers provided
5 +8confluence
philgoddard
4 +2where two rivers join / meet
Tony M
3 +2where two rivers merge
Carol Gullidge
3 +1meeting point
Mark Nathan
4where two rivers converge
Sheila Wilson
3confluence, junction of two rivers
Sone-Ngole Alvin Ngole


  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +8
confluence


Explanation:
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/confluence

philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 39
Grading comment
Thanks - I had thought of this but it seemed too 'geographical' at the time and not very poetical! The other synonyms seemed clumsy to me. Now reading it written by you it seems perfect!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, I had thought of this but it seemed a bit too like a geography lesson. Now reading from you it seems fine!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  liz askew: Segré is situated at the confluence of two rivers...
1 min

agree  Carol Gullidge
3 mins

agree  Letredenoblesse: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/confluenc...
8 mins

agree  Michel F. Morin: Yes, no doubt ("Khartoum is located at the confluence of the White Nile and the Blue Nile").
1 hr

agree  Rasha Ali Hassan: agree
2 hrs

agree  writeaway: confirmed by any/all Fr-En dictionaries. or (with a bit of rewording/ie less literal) where the 2 rivers flow together, to make it more tourist-level
2 hrs
  -> Agreed, though I think most people know what confluence means.

agree  Zofia Wyszynski: Situated at the confluence of two rivers, ...
3 hrs

agree  Tony M
3 hrs
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
meeting point


Explanation:
Segré is located at the meeting point of two rivers to the north of the Dordogne Valley

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(If you don't want to say confluence)

Mark Nathan
France
Local time: 18:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 32
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Mark


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Carol Gullidge: or the Loire valley even :)
1 min
  -> yes, Loire Valley...thanks Carol
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
where two rivers merge


Explanation:
... if you don't like confluence

... join together

... meet

and other synonyms ...

Carol Gullidge
United Kingdom
Local time: 17:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 62
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Carol


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sheila Wilson: I think I should have agreed with this rather than posting an alternative, as I like "meet" too
1 hr
  -> many thanks Sheila!

agree  Tony M: Oh, sorry, Carol, I didn't notice you'd included 'meet' in your list when I posted my much later answer; I certainly agree with 'meet', though not so happy with your other 2 suggestions.
1 day 3 hrs
  -> thanks Tony - no problem :)
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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
confluence, junction of two rivers


Explanation:
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Sone-Ngole Alvin Ngole
Local time: 17:47
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks.

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
au confluent de deux rivières
where two rivers converge


Explanation:
I personally think that's the most natural choice for a tourism context, although "at the convergence of two rivers" would also be possible. A lot depends on the style of the text.

Where Two Rivers Converge and Two Histories Divide - NYTimes.com
www.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/us/20land.html
20 May 2007 – Cairo, Ill., entices visitors with billboards celebrating points of historical interest, so it must endure the questions that arise from glancing beyond ...

Sheila Wilson
Spain
Local time: 17:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 45
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Sheila ,I think you're right.

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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
au confluent de deux rivières
where two rivers join / meet


Explanation:
I totally agree that 'confluence' is perfectly acceptable in EN in this register: however, if you REALLY want to get right away from it, then I would suggest also getting away from a noun expression, and using one with active verbs, as suggested above.

I believe that of all the options, this is the most natural sounding in EN.


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Pour la petite histoire, the mill where I used to live was adjacent to a spot known as 'Confolens', which is 'confluence' in the local dialect here. It was always nice to know that my little stream contributed to forming quite a big river. Tiny acorns and all that...

Tony M
France
Local time: 18:47
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 119
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks Tony for your comments.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jennifer White: yes, I agree - MEET. For the tourism market this is the best solution IMO.
17 hrs
  -> Thanks, Jennifer!

agree  Yolanda Broad
22 hrs
  -> Thanks, Yolanda!
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