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Comité national des associations du réseau d’accueil

English translation: Do not translate!

07:43 Jul 30, 2004
French to English translations [PRO]
Surveying / survey on immigration
French term or phrase: Comité national des associations du réseau d’accueil
Dans ce secteur, important dans notre enquête, il faut signaler quelques réseaux associatifs spécifiques comme le réseau CLARA (Comité national des associations du réseau d’accueil) qui regroupe des associations chargées par les pouvoirs publics, en 1973, de l’accueil, de l’information et de l’orientation des travailleurs immigrés et de leurs familles
Florence LOUIS
France
Local time: 16:34
English translation:Do not translate!
Explanation:
I would be very tempted here not to translate it, as you will in any case have to leave the French original: "for example, the CLARA network (Comité national des associations du réseau d’accueil)..."

There's almost no point translating it as the work and nature of CLARA is defined in detail right away in the bit you will translate! :-)

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Note added at 6 hrs 29 mins (2004-07-30 14:12:59 GMT)
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To see what Paula and I mean, do a translation of it with the acronym, the French phrase (which I think you have to leave in), the translation of the French phrase, and then the description that follows - and you\'ll see there\'s an awful lot of duplication.
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Dr Andrew Read
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:34
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2Do not translate!
Dr Andrew Read
4National Committee of Reception-Network Associations
Brian Gaffney
4National committee of associations in the network for helping immigrants
Allan Jeffs


  

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Comité national des associations du réseau d’accueil
National Committee of Reception-Network Associations


Explanation:
Literal but exact.

Brian Gaffney
Ireland
Local time: 15:34
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mihailolja: Yes, "Reception" being the word here and not" Welcoming" as I thought.
5 mins
  -> Thanks Mihailolja
agree  Vicky Papaprodromou: Good morning, Brian! What an impressive series of answers. Do you know any Greek?//You'd better hurry then! :))
46 mins
  -> Thanks once again Vicky. I know only too little of your wonderful language! On my list of things to learn ...
disagree  Allan Jeffs: Sorry Brian, but I just can't come to grips with your translation. It's too convoluted. Can't see a way of streamlining it but it can be explained.
1 hr
  -> I know, Allan, but it's convoluted in the original. How could it be streamlined?
disagree  Dr Andrew Read: See comments below - also I would certainly avoid capitalising any translation in this kind of instance unless there is an accepted English translation. (Check their website)
6 hrs
  -> Good points Andrew, thanks.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Comité national des associations du réseau d’accueil
National committee of associations in the network for helping immigrants


Explanation:
You can translate CLARA as the following description details exactly how CLARA helps immigrants - three-fold: accueil, information et orientation.
The French definition will mean nothing to mono-linguists.

Allan Jeffs
France
Local time: 16:34
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Dr Andrew Read: At the most I'd summarise it as "a national umbrella group that" and then simply translate the description of its activities. It doesn't matter if the reader doesn't understand the French as the role of the org is then explained in detail anyway. :-)
5 hrs
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59 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Comité national des associations du réseau d’accueil
Do not translate!


Explanation:
I would be very tempted here not to translate it, as you will in any case have to leave the French original: "for example, the CLARA network (Comité national des associations du réseau d’accueil)..."

There's almost no point translating it as the work and nature of CLARA is defined in detail right away in the bit you will translate! :-)

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Note added at 6 hrs 29 mins (2004-07-30 14:12:59 GMT)
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To see what Paula and I mean, do a translation of it with the acronym, the French phrase (which I think you have to leave in), the translation of the French phrase, and then the description that follows - and you\'ll see there\'s an awful lot of duplication.

Dr Andrew Read
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:34
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Graded automatically based on peer agreement.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  PRen (X): Absolutely - do not translate (after verifying, of course, whether the group has given itself an official English name), and as Andrew points out, the text explains it for the reader.
5 hrs
agree  Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X): Right..footnote, use French with bracket first time, footnote with asterisk and then use CLARA
6 hrs
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