accès au sous-sol du garage

16:31 Jun 5, 2019 

No pictures or website link provided with source text. Also, I was not questioning the room that car repairs are carried out in - this phrase contains more than just the room type."

13:52 Jun 4, 2019 

As one would hardly carry out car repairs in "'une grande pièce chauffée utilisée comme salon TV", it seems fairly obvious that there are two separate basements, one that is "habitable", and the other being the 46 m² car repair space under the garage. There may be some additional clues about the access arrangement in the "...... [etc ...etc].....; "as well as in any pictures provided with the source text.

11:27 Jun 4, 2019 

I would suggest you post "access to the basement from the garage", or words to that effect. You suggested this as a possible reading in the very first discussion post, and then provided the photographic evidence.

11:26 Jun 4, 2019 

Exactly! :-) I'll stick to my initial "access to the basement from the garage and said basement then leads to a room that's 46 sq. m." - but I would ask the client.

11:24 Jun 4, 2019 

OK, thanks. But is anybody else going to post anything? As only one person has agreed with the one suggestion that is there (and I do not fully understand the suggested phrase), are you saying you also do not actually know for sure?

11:24 Jun 4, 2019 

Exactly!

11:21 Jun 4, 2019 

"You can't ignore sous-sol DU garage." How about: accès au sous-sol [à partir] du garage ? Lara, these ads are not well written: I would really ask what the client thinks/means...

11:20 Jun 4, 2019 

But I think "sous-sol du garage" is parsing it wrongly. I think it must mean "accès du garage au sous-sol"; they're really saying "l'accès au sous-sol se fait du garage". As I say, I do think there's a basement under the garage, and this is the pièce de 46m2.

11:17 Jun 4, 2019 

If the pont élévateur is not under the garage, where could it possibly be? And why install it elsewhere? If you want to work on your car, the obvious place to do so is surely the garage.

11:16 Jun 4, 2019 

You can't ignore sous-sol DU garage. it's a basement space underneath the garage

11:12 Jun 4, 2019 

So I'm saying that "donnant sur" refers to the sous-sol, not the garage: not "le garage donne sur une pièce de 46 m2, but "le soul-sol donne sur une pièce de 46 m2".

11:10 Jun 4, 2019 

Sorry if I wasn't clear: I meant to say that writeaway's ref. shows that it is possible for garages to have basements.

11:10 Jun 4, 2019 

Also, all things considered, and posts so far, I actually find Tony's translation a good option. I am confused why he did not post this. Would it receive agrees if it were posted?

11:08 Jun 4, 2019 

But writeaway's links are not related to the property I am working on. Mine is in Switzerland.

11:07 Jun 4, 2019 

Thanks to Ph-B's ref. (which doesn't work because of a closing parenthesis at the end, but here it is again):
https://www.immobilier.ch/fr/acheter/maison/geneve/thonex/ga...
we can see that the garage is at ground level. Here's the photo of the garage:
https://www.immobilier.ch/Medias/gaechner-immobilier-sarl-76...

Well, I think "accès au sous-sol du garage" must mean access to the basement is from the garage (via a staircase, presumably). The basement is under the house. The basement leads to the pièce de 46m2. This pièce contains the lifting platform, so I think it must be under the garage; it would be no use anywhere else. There's no sign in any of the photos of vehicular access to the basement level, so the only place you could work on a car is in the garage. The platform is presumably set into the garage floor.

It's a double garage and could well be about 46 m2 (say 7 x 6.5 m). So the pièce underneath it would be the same size. That's my theory.

11:01 Jun 4, 2019 

That's right, I agreed with Tony's reading: "garage leading to a room that's 46 sq. m." That was one of the options I referred to in my first discussion post. That was before writeaway's ref. comment, which shows there may well be a basement under the garage. So it's hard to understand which of the two leads to that room, not to mention that the ad contradicts itself: one part of it says "leads to a room that's 46 sq. m." and another part says the garage itself is 46 sq. m. Far from clear... I would ask the client. Strictly speaking (reading your source text): "access to basement area to the garage leading to a room that's 46 sq. m."

10:48 Jun 4, 2019 

Can you explain your "agree" comment? are you saying that Tony's translation works better or that the posted answer works better?

10:10 Jun 4, 2019 

Le garage de 46m2 (https://www.immobilier.ch/fr/acheter/maison/geneve/thonex/ga...[EDIT] Checked the ad after writeaway's comment and realised the link is not working. Just to clarify: accès au sous-sol du garage donnant sur une pièce de 46m2, équipée d'un pont élévateur idéal pour bricoler des voitures... Le garage de 46m2, peut accueillir 2 voitures et plusieurs zones de rangement. This should help locating the source.

09:52 Jun 4, 2019 

I can understand why you're puzzled. Either you get access to the basement from the garage and said basement then leads to a room that's 46 sq. m. OR you get access to the basement of the garage, said garage or said basement then leading to a room that's 46 sq. m. Does your client have an opinion on this? :-)