insolvabilité notoire

10:45 Apr 3, 2013
French to English translations [PRO]
Other / En cas d'insolvabilité
French term or phrase: insolvabilité notoire
Bonjour,

Pouvez-vous m'aider à trouver la bonne traduction pour cette phrase:

" sauf en cas d'insolvabilité notoire de l'acheteur"

Merci
Cybe
Local time: 06:21


Summary of answers provided
4known insolvency
B D Finch
3 +1Irrefutable insolvency
Colin Morley (X)
3 +1manifest insolvency /notorious insolvency
pooja_chic


Discussion entries: 3





  

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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
known insolvency


Explanation:
Though I think it is better to express this differently in English, e.g. save in the case of the purchaser being known to be insolvent.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 06:21
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 52

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: This is a provisional neutral which may become an agree! I like your suggestion in italics and agree that it would be much better expressed in that way. However, I think that context is lacking for the time being : see my discussion post.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Nikki. I agree with your reservations.
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Irrefutable insolvency


Explanation:
If this is in a legal context (as I suspect it may be) then irrefutable may not be the right word - but "notoire" infers a state of insolvency which is authentic and not just that the customer claims inability to pay.

Colin Morley (X)
France
Local time: 06:21
Works in field
Native speaker of: English

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agree  GILLES MEUNIER
2 hrs
  -> Thanks Gilou
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51 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
manifest insolvency /notorious insolvency


Explanation:
http://www.guildedesfromagers.fr/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/...
TOURS EVENEMENTS peut refuser l’inscription d’un exposant pour non conformité
à la loi des produits ou services proposés, pour manifestation contraire à l’ordre
public, insolvabilité notoire du candidat exposant.
TOURS EVENEMENTSmay refuse to register Exhibitors in cases where their products
or services do not comply with legal requirements, for behaviour contrary to
public order, or for manifest insolvency on the part of the candidate.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/insolvency
http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/12/431/

pooja_chic
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Colin Morley (X): manifest perhaps, but notorious? Don't think that works - notoriety infers repetitive behaviour(s) WHOOPS! - Have just read comment below and discovered that "notorious insolvency" is a recognised legal term. Sorry for doubting you - can you forgive me?
3 hrs

agree  gkshenaut: I think there is a corresponding Scottish legal term “notorious insolvency” that means “a stage of insolvency in which the debtor has publicly acknowledged insolvency under the statute”. http://definitions.uslegal.com/n/notorious-insolvency/
16 hrs
  -> Thanks gkshenaut

neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: I did not know of the term "notorious insolvency" either. It seems to have meaning under Scottish law and in the US. To the best of my knowledge, it does not exist in E & W. We are not sure how the FR is being used here so it is difficult to know if right
1 day 4 hrs
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