modeliste / patronnier

English translation: Fashion stylist/pattern maker OR patern designer/maker

04:19 Jun 2, 2000
French to English translations [PRO]
French term or phrase: modeliste / patronnier
Does anyone know what the difference is between these two? A Web search indicates they are the same occupation, and I found the following translations for both of them: pattern maker, pattern drafter, modeler or modeling designer. However, I'm translating a text for a fashion school that says it has a one-year "patronnier" training program and a two-year "modeliste" training program. So I don't know what word to use for each one.
Karen Tucker
English translation:Fashion stylist/pattern maker OR patern designer/maker
Explanation:
Fashion stylist for modéliste, and pattern maker for patronnier.
Ref. Termium (CD)

pattern designer is also possible for modéliste (Termium, too)


Hope this helps.
Best wishes,
Val.
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valfrhg
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Thanks for checking in Termium for me. I don't have Termium, but should! As I mentioned in my reply to all who answered, a Web site that called "modeliste" a "pattern drafter" and used the word "styliste" for "fashion designer or stylist" threw me off. Plus the text I was translating called designers "createurs" or "dessinateur" elsewhere in the text. Thanks again!
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naFashion stylist/pattern maker OR patern designer/maker
valfrhg
naDress designer and pattern maker
wflyer (X)
nafashion designer and patternmaker
Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)


  

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17 mins
Fashion stylist/pattern maker OR patern designer/maker


Explanation:
Fashion stylist for modéliste, and pattern maker for patronnier.
Ref. Termium (CD)

pattern designer is also possible for modéliste (Termium, too)


Hope this helps.
Best wishes,
Val.

valfrhg
Local time: 19:01
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in pair: 15
Grading comment
Thanks for checking in Termium for me. I don't have Termium, but should! As I mentioned in my reply to all who answered, a Web site that called "modeliste" a "pattern drafter" and used the word "styliste" for "fashion designer or stylist" threw me off. Plus the text I was translating called designers "createurs" or "dessinateur" elsewhere in the text. Thanks again!
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31 mins
Dress designer and pattern maker


Explanation:
Modelist would be dress designer or fashion stylist or even model maker.
Patronnier however, would be patternmaker as in a "dessinateur de patron". Jugé par ce que je comprends, il y a donc une différence entre les deux puisque l'un est le créateur du vêtement et l'autre le dessinateur du patron. Bonne chance!! Catherine

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fashion designer and patternmaker


Explanation:
I live in the garment district in New York and around here people say designer (modeliste) for the person that draws or sketches the clothes while the patternmaker (patronier) creates the pattern from which the designer's drawing can be cut from cloth and sewn. Designers are known to the public and patternmakers are not, usually.

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