enduit cellulosique

English translation: HPMC powder

13:24 Mar 25, 2017
French to English translations [PRO]
Materials (Plastics, Ceramics, etc.) / DIY - adhesives
French term or phrase: enduit cellulosique
This appears in an installation guide for wall tiles as one of two options for adhesives to stick the tiles to the wall. The video can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HO-BSzzyVo. It shows an image of the product at 1m 10 which is labelled "colle decor". It is bought in the form of a powder. The instructions for its use are as follows:

Pour coller les parements Staff Design, vous pouvez utiliser de l’enduit cellulosique en poudre type STAFF DECOR.
Le temps de prise sera de 30 min.
Il vous faudra utiliser une gâche et des spatules.
Versez dans la gâche 0.5 L d’eau puis ajouter de la colle en pluie fine, en la répartissant équitablement.
Lorsque la poudre n’est plus absorbée et reste à la surface, mélangez avec une spatule jusqu’à obtention d’une pâte homogène.

I am confused because 'cellulose adhesive plaster' seems to be an appropriate translation however when I google that term it seems to be an adhesive for paper and card rather than something that can hold tiles. A search for wall tile adhesive brings up the possible translation of 'polymer-modified adhesive' which looks like the same thing as in the video however the French translation for this seems to be "liant modifié aux polymères"!

The term "powdered tile adhesive" seems to be common in English but I would be grateful for any advice from DIY experts before going for this.

Many thanks for your help!
Penny Lynch
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:52
English translation:HPMC powder
Explanation:
https://indofilcc.com/business-area/specialty-performance-ch...
http://www.kalpanapolymers.com/wall-putty-tile-adhesive-chem...

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/hydroxypropyl-methyl-...



HPMC: hydroxypropyl methyl cellulose



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A good starting point is to try and find the same product in a well-known brand. That way you have a strong chance of finding your way to some clues in another language. We all know several DIY brands, we all know a few DIY and or glue brands. As Shakespeare once wrote : "Screw your courage to the sticking place" (Macbeth, I believe). Maybe you'll find something with Bostik, for example? Then go to B&Q on line and see where the same product appears until something bonds (haha). Happy shopping!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_cellulose

The construction materials can be cement-based or gypsum-based. Notable examples of dry mixture mortars which utilize methyl cellulose include: tile adhesives, EIFS, insulating plasters, hand-troweled and machine-sprayed plaster, stucco, self-leveling flooring, extruded cement panels, skim coats, joint & crack fillers, and tile grouts. Typical usage is about 0.2% – 0.5% of total dry powder weight for dry mixtures.

Maybe the term "dry-mix" could help in your searches.

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You're welcome. "Cellulose coating" is what I'd have used without having conducted searches, as a literal solution. I just couldn't imagine any use for coating cellulose alone. It was when I looked into it, together with the info you have provided, that I came round to thinking that it was a cellulose powder to be mixed with glue. That took me on to HPMC powders, HPMC being cellulose.

In the Wikipedia source, there is reference to a "skim coat". If it is being used on a surface, that may help.

I'm not a specialist though, but if you have found something that works, that's fine!
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 02:52
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enduit cellulosique en poudre
HPMC powder


Explanation:
https://indofilcc.com/business-area/specialty-performance-ch...
http://www.kalpanapolymers.com/wall-putty-tile-adhesive-chem...

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/hydroxypropyl-methyl-...



HPMC: hydroxypropyl methyl cellulose



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Note added at 1 hr (2017-03-25 14:41:40 GMT)
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A good starting point is to try and find the same product in a well-known brand. That way you have a strong chance of finding your way to some clues in another language. We all know several DIY brands, we all know a few DIY and or glue brands. As Shakespeare once wrote : "Screw your courage to the sticking place" (Macbeth, I believe). Maybe you'll find something with Bostik, for example? Then go to B&Q on line and see where the same product appears until something bonds (haha). Happy shopping!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methyl_cellulose

The construction materials can be cement-based or gypsum-based. Notable examples of dry mixture mortars which utilize methyl cellulose include: tile adhesives, EIFS, insulating plasters, hand-troweled and machine-sprayed plaster, stucco, self-leveling flooring, extruded cement panels, skim coats, joint & crack fillers, and tile grouts. Typical usage is about 0.2% – 0.5% of total dry powder weight for dry mixtures.

Maybe the term "dry-mix" could help in your searches.

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Note added at 1 day4 hrs (2017-03-26 17:36:54 GMT) Post-grading
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You're welcome. "Cellulose coating" is what I'd have used without having conducted searches, as a literal solution. I just couldn't imagine any use for coating cellulose alone. It was when I looked into it, together with the info you have provided, that I came round to thinking that it was a cellulose powder to be mixed with glue. That took me on to HPMC powders, HPMC being cellulose.

In the Wikipedia source, there is reference to a "skim coat". If it is being used on a surface, that may help.

I'm not a specialist though, but if you have found something that works, that's fine!

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 02:52
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 13
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you for your help, Nikki- I had been going round in circles for far too long! Im not convinced that the HPMC powders are exactly the same as what was coming up with the French term- after some more digging on the internet I finally found a translation from the company's own website - cellulose coating- which I will use instead. I really appreciate your help though!

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