instaurer une gestion collégiale

English translation: to install/institute/establish collaborative management

10:48 Apr 16, 2017
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Management / FR-LUX> EN-UK
French term or phrase: instaurer une gestion collégiale
I have found a number of translations for "gestion collégiale". I have rejected the obvious one of "collegial management", because of its specific use in the UK for management of academic institutions. Termium Plus also suggests "peer group management" and "plural executive", neither of which seems quite right and the latter does not seem to be a term used in the UK.

The context is a wish to change the management structure of a company jointly owned by two others, in order for one of those others to be able to exercise stricter supervision.
B D Finch
France
Local time: 16:28
English translation:to install/institute/establish collaborative management
Explanation:
I selected this from a list of synonyms, viz:

unified
joint
concerted
coordinated
harmonious
interdependent
reciprocal
symbiotic
united
coefficient
collective
combining
common
joining
team
uniting
agreeing
coacting
coactive
coadjuvant
collaborating
collaborative
collusive
combined
concurring
hand in glove
in league
participating
shared
synergetic
synergic

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What is Collaborative Management? (with pictures) - wiseGEEK
www.wisegeek.com/what-is-collaborative-management.htm
Collaborative management is any management technique that promotes a sense of unity and teamwork among managers to combine their...

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Leadership Ensemble: Lessons in Collaborative ... - Amazon.co.uk
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Leadership...Collaborative-Manageme...
Buy Leadership Ensemble: Lessons in Collaborative Management from the Worlds Only Conductorless Orchestra by Harvey Seifter, Peter Economy, J. Richard ...

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Certificate of Registration - Crown Highways
crownhighways.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/CBR-652457-BS11000.pdf
15 Jun 2016 - The collaborative management system related to the provision of Highway signage and loop ... in England under number 7805321 at 389 Chiswick High Road, London W4 4AL, UK. A Member of the BSI Group of Companies.

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collaborative management research (cmr) as a modality of action ...
https://www.essex.ac.uk/events/pdfs/Canterino-Seminar.pdf
“I was hired as an outsider to lead the merger of two successful companies located in different ... What followed was a one-year Collaborative Management.
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:28
Grading comment
Thanks!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2to install/institute/establish collaborative management
AllegroTrans
4establish joint control over the management
Daryo
4 -1to establish collegial management
Francois Boye
3to establish an even-handed approach
ormiston
Summary of reference entries provided
gestion collégiale : une définition juridique?
Nikki Scott-Despaigne

Discussion entries: 10





  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
to install/institute/establish collaborative management


Explanation:
I selected this from a list of synonyms, viz:

unified
joint
concerted
coordinated
harmonious
interdependent
reciprocal
symbiotic
united
coefficient
collective
combining
common
joining
team
uniting
agreeing
coacting
coactive
coadjuvant
collaborating
collaborative
collusive
combined
concurring
hand in glove
in league
participating
shared
synergetic
synergic

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What is Collaborative Management? (with pictures) - wiseGEEK
www.wisegeek.com/what-is-collaborative-management.htm
Collaborative management is any management technique that promotes a sense of unity and teamwork among managers to combine their...

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Note added at 1 hr (2017-04-16 12:07:32 GMT)
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Leadership Ensemble: Lessons in Collaborative ... - Amazon.co.uk
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Leadership...Collaborative-Manageme...
Buy Leadership Ensemble: Lessons in Collaborative Management from the Worlds Only Conductorless Orchestra by Harvey Seifter, Peter Economy, J. Richard ...

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Certificate of Registration - Crown Highways
crownhighways.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/CBR-652457-BS11000.pdf
15 Jun 2016 - The collaborative management system related to the provision of Highway signage and loop ... in England under number 7805321 at 389 Chiswick High Road, London W4 4AL, UK. A Member of the BSI Group of Companies.

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collaborative management research (cmr) as a modality of action ...
https://www.essex.ac.uk/events/pdfs/Canterino-Seminar.pdf
“I was hired as an outsider to lead the merger of two successful companies located in different ... What followed was a one-year Collaborative Management.

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 15:28
Meets criteria
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Thanks!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, I feel spoiled for choice! However, "collaborative" sounds a bit sweetness and light in contrast to the situation here where it's more a question of "the scum have been going behind our backs and lining their own corporate pockets, so we want a system that lets us keep the bastards under control."

Asker: Picking from your list of synonyms, "concerted" might work. I had wondered whether the source term was a specific legal form that required an equally specific translation or explanation.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: "Collaborative" is a good match here. The whole point is that "collégial" is in contrast to what is already in place, apparently anything but! The FR terms seeems to be used in much the same way as the "coll. mgmt" suggested here.
5 hrs
  -> thanks I don't think this needs to be overdone

agree  Yvonne Gallagher
3 days 22 hrs
  -> thanks

neutral  Daryo: as a general purpose translation, why not - but this ST seems more to be about getting a grip on what's going on, not much "collaborating" around ...
4 days
  -> I don't think it's the translator's task to change the term in this way
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
to establish collegial management


Explanation:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877042811...

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 11:28
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Your reference specifies that it is for "educational institutions", which is precisely why I rejected this term in the first place.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  AllegroTrans: Asker has already rejected this term and wants an alternative
1 min

agree  philgoddard: Collegial has two meanings. One is a synonym of collegiate, relating to colleges. The other means "sharing responsibility." The correct meaning is obvious from the context. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collegial
1 day 1 hr
  -> Thanks! I don't see why Asker excluded this outright!

disagree  Daryo: "... because of its specific use in the UK for management of academic institutions" - sounds like a pretty good reason to me, can't see any point in arguing against ...
4 days
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
to establish an even-handed approach


Explanation:
Working backwards from this notion I've found endorsement of the idea
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/equally

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Although not in the impressive list above!

ormiston
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
establish joint control over the management


Explanation:
that's how it sounds to me in this ST - it's certainly NOT a general purpose translation

Daryo
United Kingdom
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Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
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Reference comments


6 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: gestion collégiale : une définition juridique?

Reference information:
http://www.assistant-juridique.fr/association_collegiale.jsp

Avantages de l'association collégiale


Un fonctionnement plus simple et des membres plus impliqués

Si votre association loi 1901 comporte peu d'adhérents, son fonctionnement sera plus simple et diluera les responsabilités de chacun des membres du conseil d'administration.

De même, si les membres souhaitent tous s'impliquer dans le fonctionnement de l'association, l'instauration d'un bureau collégial représente la solution idéale.


Un accroissement du sens des responsabilités

Le mode collectif accroît le sens des responsabilités de ceux qui ont envie de s'impliquer. Le fonctionnement en est un peu plus lourd car il y a plus de discussions et il faut apprendre à faire confiance et respecter les initiatives des autres.

Mais il est aussi nécessaire que le collectif accorde une certaine autonomie à ses membres, avec une marge de manoeuvre limitée et une certaine tolérance pour les faux pas, sinon le groupe risque de s'auto-stériliser en s'interdisant mutuellement des initiatives.

Inconvénients de l'association collégiale

Si vous comptez déclarer votre association collégiale, la préfecture risque d'avoir des difficultés à accepter votre dossier. En effet, le formulaire pré-imprimé réclame le nom du président, du trésorier et du secrétaire. Les fonctionnaires ne sont pas habitués à enregistrer les associations loi 1901 sous une autre forme.

Certaines préfectures accepteront finalement d'enregistrer votre association loi 1901 mais d'autres refuseront, prétextant que le programme informatique ne peut enregistrer les associations collégiales. Il faudra alors insister. Un bon début est de demander au fonctionnaire de vous montrer le texte de loi sur lequel il s'appuie pour affirmer que la présence d'un président est obligatoire. Comme il n'y en a pas, il ne pourra pas vous le montrer. Si vous insistez encore, il ira demander l'avis d'un expert qui lui confirmera qu'une association sans président est parfaitement légale et qu'elle est dénommée « association collégiale ».

En toutes hypothèses, la non-désignation d'un président n'empêche pas de poursuivre l'un ou l'autre des membres du conseil d'administration pour gestion de fait au motif qu'il n'avait pas la qualité de représentant de l'association loi 1901.

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In the event of this being an "association loi 1901" :

http://association1901.fr/moments-cle/creer-association-loi-...

Organisation interne (3) : le mode collégial

BY LAURENT SAMUEL ON 26 OCTOBRE 2006 1

problématique générale (1),

l’organisation en mode citoyen (2)

Le mode collégial consiste à organiser une répartition du pouvoir entre différents groupes identifiés parmi les membres de l’association.

Faisant référence aux catégories statutaires de membres, les collèges peuvent réunir les fondateurs, les bénévoles actifs, les salariés, les usagers de l’association ou tout autre groupe de membre de l’association, selon les intérêts qu’il s’agit de représenter ou les dossiers à traiter.

Le rôle des collèges doit être soigneusement prévu : au minimum, ils désignent un ou plusieurs représentants qui vont élire un bureau de dirigeants. Dans ce cas, les collèges jouent le rôle du CA en mode citoyen mais il est possible de prévoir un – exercice du pouvoir qui ne soit pas démocratique mais reste pour autant équitable

Selon la formule choisie, la composition du bureau ou de l’organe dirigeant peut résulter d’un compromis entre les différents collèges ou bien, au contraire, appartenir en propre à un seul collège.

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See also : http://www.rhone.gouv.fr/content/download/2655/18646/file/ex...

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Or an example with school management : https://ries.revues.org/2486

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Other sources (FR) indicating application of the term across a wide spectrum of cirsumstances and business structures, not just the assoc' loi 1901 :

http://www.entreprisesdesquartiers.fr/pid14462/quelques-defi...

"Administrateur de société
Personne physique ou morale désignée parmi les actionnaires d'une société pour exercer une mission de gestion collégiale au sein du conseil d'administration"


A financial structure: http://www.montsegurfinance.com/IMG/pdf/Presentation_Montseg...

"Son équipe expérimentée issue de la Finance, de l’Industrie et de l’Entrepreneuriat, sa
gestion collégiale et sa culture du service lui ont permis de mettre à disposition des
particuliers, des conseils financiers et des institutionnels : une gamme de fonds
performants, une gestion privée sur-mesure et des services à forte valeur ajoutée dédiés aux professionnels"


http://www.h24finance.com/profile-797.html

"Historique : Depuis 1986, Rouvier Associés gère des capitaux pour des clients particuliers et institutionnels. Le modèle repose sur une gestion collégiale de la société et des capitaux confiés.
L'équipe de gestion rayonne en France et dans les pays européens limitrophes.

Type de gestion : Le coeur de métier est la gestion actions.
Elle s'exerce à travers la SICAV Rouvier, constituée de 4 compartiments correspondant aux 4 FCP antérieurs Rouvier Valeurs, Rouvier Europe, Rouvier Evolution et Rouvier Patrimoine.
Ces compartiments sont gérés par des comités de gestion dédiés qui rassemblent plusieurs gérants financiers de l'équipe de gestion.
Cette discipline collégiale assure implication et objectivité.

Politique d'investissement : La stratégie de gestion est qualifiée de "Quality & Value". Elle consiste à sélectionner des sociétés à croissance bénéficiaire pérenne assises sur une stratégie claire et durable. L'investissement est réalisé lorsque le cours de bourse offre une décote par rapport à la leur évaluation établie en interne."

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Does not meet criteria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks, this is useful in showing that the term in French also tends to be used for the management of educational institutions and so, that it might be being used more metaphorically than specifically in my text. That might allow me to use the directionally equivalent term in English, which I had previously rejected because of its educational context.

Asker: My Dragon is playing up again, the above should read "directly equivalent", not "directionally equivalent". Anyhow, me and my Dragon are knocking off for today.


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
neutral  Daryo: the ST seems to be about a business / a commercial entity
1 hr
  -> Yes, I know, which does nothing to detract from the relevance of the term as applied to other business organisations.
agree  AllegroTrans: association collégiale seems to be legally defined, but not gestion collégiale
8 hrs
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