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délibération de prescription

English translation: decision (requiring...)

16:38 Mar 5, 2018
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Government / Politics / Outdoor advertising regulations
French term or phrase: délibération de prescription
This is a thing about allowing local authorities to create their own rules about outdoor advertising: RLP = Règlement local de publicité.
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"A noter que la délibération de prescription doit être précise, explicite et adaptée au contexte local à travers l'exposé des objectifs poursuivis par l'élaboration du RLP En effet, le contentieux du code de l'urbanisme a montré que les délibérations généralistes et pouvant s'appliquer à n'importe quel territoire étaient très souvent annulées.
A compter de la publication de cette délibération qui sera affichée en mairie, elle est notifiée aux acteurs déterminés à l'article L. 123-6 du code de l'urbanisme."
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"Les personnes publiques associées sont les partenaires institutionnels associés à l'élaboration du RLP Elles reçoivent la délibération de prescription du RLP (L. 123-6 du code de l'urbanisme) et émettent un avis sur le projet (L. 123-9 du code de l'urbanisme). Elles sont ainsi associées à l'élaboration du projet dès son commencement."
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"A noter, que conformément à l'article L. 121-4 du code de l'urbanisme, les professionnels sont informés via les chambres consulaires de la délibération de prescription du RLP"
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"Outre la publication dans un journal diffusé dans le département de la mention de l'affichage de la délibération de prescription du RLP et de la mention de l'affichage de la délibération d'approbation ou révision du RLP (prévu par l'article R. 123-25 du code de l'urbanisme), il est recommandé de prévoir la publication de ces mentions dans un journal de presse spécialisée."
My first port of call was to check out the Legifrance English translations https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/Traductions/en-English/Legifr... unfortunately these don't include the Code de l'Urbanisme.
My first stab is something like "deliberation determining/specifying/laying down the RLP"... Does anyone have a better idea?
Mpoma
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:44
English translation:decision (requiring...)
Explanation:
Here is article 123-6 of the code, as mentioned in your text:

"La délibération qui prescrit l'élaboration du plan local d'urbanisme et précise les objectifs poursuivis ainsi que les modalités de concertation, conformément à l'article L. 300-2, est notifiée..."

So, depending on the context in each case, you could say either "decision requiring the creation of an RLP" (or however you've translated the acronym)", or simply "decision".

There's no need to look for an English translation - just looking at the French text can often answer your question.
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philgoddard
United States
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I concluded (see discussion) that there are two possible meanings: either "the decision to introduce RLP/local advertising regulations" or "the minutes of the decision to introduce RLP". Your answer was most helpful.
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +1decision (requiring...)
philgoddard
3minutes from the meeting regarding the [urban planning] requirements/condtions
Daryo
3 -2copy of the local regulations
Ben Gaia


Discussion entries: 3





  

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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
decision (requiring...)


Explanation:
Here is article 123-6 of the code, as mentioned in your text:

"La délibération qui prescrit l'élaboration du plan local d'urbanisme et précise les objectifs poursuivis ainsi que les modalités de concertation, conformément à l'article L. 300-2, est notifiée..."

So, depending on the context in each case, you could say either "decision requiring the creation of an RLP" (or however you've translated the acronym)", or simply "decision".

There's no need to look for an English translation - just looking at the French text can often answer your question.


    Reference: http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?cidTexte=...
philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 42
Grading comment
I concluded (see discussion) that there are two possible meanings: either "the decision to introduce RLP/local advertising regulations" or "the minutes of the decision to introduce RLP". Your answer was most helpful.
Notes to answerer
Asker: Yes, decision fits well... thanks


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans: or "decision prescribing/imposing/specifying..."
1 hr
  -> Sure. Thanks.
disagree  Daryo: you are confusing the process and the end result. CL5+ about that ... // if you look at real life samples, you'll find proper "minutes of the meeting" (including when, where, who was there, who advocated what, etc), not just the decision taken.
1 day 2 hrs
agree  GILLES MEUNIER
1 day 22 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
copy of the local regulations


Explanation:
this would fit the context, it is not the formal title of the document (which is in French) but an informal rendering into plain English for ease of understanding of the English reader.

Ben Gaia
New Zealand
Local time: 21:44
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  AllegroTrans: It's not regulations, it's a specific one-off decision; please see the sample that I posted in dbox
15 mins
disagree  Daryo: "informal rendering" when dealing with legal documents? the target audience [they are the only relevant one, not Joe Bloggs & Co] for this kind of texts MUST be able to understand the proper terms.
1 day 1 hr
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1 day 2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
minutes from the meeting regarding the [urban planning] requirements/condtions


Explanation:
not sure about the best way to translate it, but:

"délibération" is the debate leading to a decision, here it's in fact a written record of it => the minutes of the meeting.

"prescription" here it's about urban planning, various conditions/restrictions/rules to be respected in urban planning (in this ST about advertising billboards)


Seems that in this case the "why and how the decision was reached" (la délibération) is as important as the decision itself.


"Modèle de délibération de prescription de l'élaboration ou la révision d'un PLU

Extrait du registre des délibérations du conseil municipal


L'an deux mil XX, le XXX, le Conseil Municipal de XXX, dûment convoqué, s'est réuni en session ordinaire à la mairie, sous la Présidence de M. (Mme)XXX, Maire

Présents :

Représentés :

Absents :

Absents excusés :

Secrétaire de séance :


Objet : ÉLABORATION DU PLAN LOCAL D'URBANISME
...."

http://www.lot-et-garonne.gouv.fr/IMG/doc/Modele_Delib_presr...

does look like minutes from a meeting to me ...

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:44
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 33

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ben Gaia: Useful reference, thankyou.
38 mins
  -> Thanks!
neutral  AllegroTrans: the minutes don't impose the requirement but the decision/resolution does; I fail to see the basis of yr objection to Phil's answer
3 hrs
  -> yes, but - here they don't want ONLY the decision - they want to know ALSO who and why advocated it ... // a parallel: in some cases (in other fields) implicated advisers are included in the records, not only the formal decision takers.
disagree  GILLES MEUNIER: decisions me semble plus approprié
20 hrs
  -> караван иде даље ....
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