entre deux impressions d’immensité

19:14 May 7, 2020
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French term or phrase: entre deux impressions d’immensité
Outre le récital Wolf et Mahler de Thomas Hampson et Wolfram Rieger, deux concerts du programme Mainstage proposaient une incursion dans le répertoire de lieder au public du Verbier Festival. Commençons par en citer un autre : entre deux impressions d’immensité de la Symphonie n° 2 de Mahler,

"Amid two great planes of vastness" ...maybe? And also, despite my research, I still cannot see what "deux" refers to here,
Lara Barnett
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Local time: 06:57


Summary of answers provided
4in between two stunning/magnificent/opulent impressions (of Mahler's second symphony)
AllegroTrans
4 -1amid two feelings of immensity triggered by Mahler's second symphony
Francois Boye
3amid two impressions indicative of grandeur/expansiveness
Barbara Cochran, MFA
Summary of reference entries provided
The full context
philgoddard
Description of Mahler's 2nd symphony the "Resurrection"
Tony M
Try looking at some synonyms
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14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
amid two impressions indicative of grandeur/expansiveness


Explanation:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/french-englis...


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Note added at 24 mins (2020-05-07 19:38:56 GMT)
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I think the following mentions of Wolf, regarding the impressions that are caused by musical performanceshttps://books.google.com/books?id=NNYqAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA184&lpg=...

Barbara Cochran, MFA
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18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
amid two feelings of immensity triggered by Mahler's second symphony


Explanation:
my take

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disagree  Tony M: 'amid' is a bit out of place for just two things — more usually 'between'; but in any case the two big things are in fact 'the remainder of the symphony'
10 mins

disagree  AllegroTrans: I can't see anything in the ST suggesting "triggered"
2 hrs

agree  Eliza Hall: Not a fan of "amid" (between works better for me), but this seems to me to be the basic meaning.
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
in between two stunning/magnificent/opulent impressions (of Mahler's second symphony)


Explanation:
I think this needs to be kept simple
Plenty of synonyms for the adjective
I think "impressions" here refers to "performances", which would make sense as asker's text is a review

AllegroTrans
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neutral  Tony M: I think this tones it down too much, and misses the key notion of the 'immensité' / That's the whole point: I don't believe that the structure does work.
1 hr
  -> OK but if the structure works, there are many alternative adjcetives
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54 mins peer agreement (net): +4
Reference: The full context

Reference information:
This is the beginning of a long sentence whose meaning I haven't worked out yet:

Outre le récital Wolf et Mahler de Thomas Hampson et Wolfram Rieger, deux concerts du programme Mainstage proposaient une incursion dans le répertoire de lieder au public du Verbier Festival. Commençons par en citer un autre : entre deux impressions d’immensité de la Symphonie n° 2 de Mahler, exécutée samedi en clôture par un Verbier Festival Orchestra légèrement fatigué par son agenda chargé (son magnifique, mais tempo parfois en-deçà des indications ciselées de Fabio Luisi, et quelques décalages dans le Scherzo), se cache le lied Urlicht, tiré de Des Knaben Wunderhorn.

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The fourth movement is a solo song, so perhaps the meaning is that it's dwarfed by the immensity of the movements before and after it.

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Asker: Urlicht was used as the 4th movement in this symphony. Does that help you work out the meaning?

Asker: I have used Dwarfed, so you are welcome to post this as an answer, if you still think it would work.

Asker: Hi Phil. I have used "dwarfed" and wondered if you wanted to post this as an answer, so I can close the question and award points. Lara


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agree  Michael Grabczan-Grabowski: Very good. Perhaps "contrasted" instead of "dwarfed" in the translation? It may give a more positive ring to it, if that's the aim of the text.
6 mins
agree  Tony M: Sounds to me that the Lied "Urlicht" came as almost light relief between 2 majestic blocks of movement in Mahler's 2nd — though from what Lara says, that would imply it has 5 movements in all? So I think the 'deux' is the 2 great slabs of symphony
16 mins
  -> Thanks. I like "slabs"!
agree  writeaway: https://www.opera-online.com/fr/columns/thibaultv/les-lieder...
14 hrs
agree  AllegroTrans: Yes, asker should have posted this in full
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Reference: Description of Mahler's 2nd symphony the "Resurrection"

Reference information:
You might find this helpful:

http://gustavmahler.com/symphonies/mahler-symphony-2.html

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16 hrs peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Try looking at some synonyms

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grandeur
breadth
brilliance
dignity
glory
grandiosity
gravity
greatness
magnificence
majesty
nobility
opulence
pomp
richness
splendor
vastness
amplitude
celebrity
circumstance
distinction
elevation
eminence
expansiveness
fame
fineness
handsomeness
immensity
impressiveness
loftiness
luxuriousness
might
preeminence
state
stateliness
sublimity
sumptuousness
sway
transcendency
augustness
inclusiveness
superbity

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agree  writeaway
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  -> tx, there could well be a suitable word "amidst" these
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