une coupole pour plafonnier

12:23 Dec 21, 2015 

Thank you. It's used on top of the wheel.

12:00 Dec 21, 2015 

It sounds to me, given Nina's explanation and that this is found in DIY stores, which don't deliberately cater for fixing bike wheels to ceilings, that this must be an upside-down ceiling rose used on top of the wheel or a right-way-up one used under the wheel. One could even use one on top, one below and a third one on the ceiling.

23:47 Dec 20, 2015 

Well, that certainly helps! I feel sure posting that in the first place would have saved you a lot of time with all this to-ing and fro-ing in the discussion.

I have never personally seen this sort of thing on sale in a DIY store here in France, so possibly it is something specifically Canadian? Unless the DIY-writer is expressing it rather poorly... and is maybe re-purposing the more conventional kind of ceiling fitting (a sort of 'cache', really). I don't know if it's a feature of FR-CA, but to me, you wouldn't use this sort of thing on a 'plafonnier', but rather on a suspension.
Whatever, in the absence of better context, I'd say the totally literal 'dome' would be a closer bet — and certainly not anything to do with your original suggestion of 'cup'!

23:21 Dec 20, 2015 

Sorry it's about only one "cup". The context is Canadian French: "Le secret, c'est la coupole de plafonnier que l'on trouve en grande surface de bricolage qui va se fixer parfaitement dans le moyeu de la roue." It is about the bike "roue", of course. It may be a little clearer now. Sorry I did not give more context, but I was, as I usually am, in a hurry :)

23:13 Dec 20, 2015 

Well, to be honest, not really! What exactly do you mean by "...it is about the cup fixed on the "cup" supporting the arms..." — just how many 'cups' do you see?

However, I now see your problem: this is yet another of those situations where in FR they describe the form it takes (a 'dome') whereas in EN we'd be more likely to cite its function — one might say it is a 'hub' or in some instances a 'base'; possibly, if you want to stay closer to the form aspect, a 'boss'. But no way is that a 'cup' — it may happen to be slightly cup-shaped, or at least cupped in shape, but a 'cup' implies something concave to hold something, whereas here what is seen from the outside is a convex 'dome' or 'boss'.

I really don't think you're going to find one term that fits all kinds of instances, but will have to choose a translation that corresponds to the particular example in question. You still haven't answered my question about how this appears in the actual source language, and why there are no other instances of it on Google?

22:40 Dec 20, 2015 

In the link below it is about the cup fixed on the "cup" supporting the arms of the ceiling lamp (not the one fixed onto the ceiling) and in my case that "cup" is used in reversed position (screwed, mounted onto the axis of the bike wheel) and further hung/suspended by means of a chain. I'm referring to the first image:

http://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/produits/decoration-eclairage...

I hope it is clearer now.

21:37 Dec 20, 2015 

Sorry, but your explanation is still very far from clear.

However, I do not believe that 'cup' is generally used in this sort of sense, no — though of course nothing can be ruled out until we have totally clear context. Can you find an image of what you think it is?

Your question term gets zero Google hits, suggesting that either it has been made up by your customer, or that maybe this was FR written by a non-native speaker.

There's no reason why it mightn't be a 'dome' — but again, without proper context, it's impossible to know exactly what it is referring to.

What also worries me slightly is that you mention this might be used fixed to the WALL, while most of the things you describe are hung from the CEILING (as is indeed implied by the 'plafonnier' in the quiestion term). Where exactly are you getting the explanation from? If these are your own words, then please could you simply give us the FR text and tell us a bit more about the actual document in which this appears?

20:12 Dec 20, 2015 

Sorry. I meant to say bike wheel. I hope I have made myself clear. This "cup" is mounted/screwed on the center of the bike wheel and it fits perfectly. It can be boudght in DIY stores.

16:39 Dec 20, 2015 

I'm still none the wiser..... Where does the bike wheel come in?

12:22 Dec 20, 2015 

The "coupole"is like a "cup" as Gilou says, I thought about it , too, but I did not know if "cup"is used. This "cup" is on sale in DIY stores. And it can be attached to the center of the wheel (screwed on it) and suspended by means of a chain attached to the center of the wheel. I hope I have explained it better.

17:24 Dec 18, 2015 

I didn't read it that way:

"Although it may be for an electric item, such as a ceiling lamp, this is used for a ... or a suspended support for kitchen tools ... And this ... is made in fact from a former bike wheel."

So as I see it, the 'coupole' is being used for hanging things like this recycled bike wheel, but isn't the actual bike wheel itself!

As usual, if Asker would only give us proper context in the source language, instead of merely a garbled explanation, we'd all be in a much better position to help!

16:06 Dec 18, 2015 

I'm a bit confused - is this former bike wheel being used as a ceiling rose?
Like you, I too found that such things can't be had in France, but hail Screwfix! Ditto bathroom pull switches; what's the French for hen's teeth?

15:13 Dec 18, 2015 

I think it's actually irrelevant, since that seems only to be an example of one of the things that might be suspended...

11:12 Dec 18, 2015 

Push bike? spoked wheels? Rear or front? Solid time-trial wheels? Kiddie's bike? Motorbike? Alloy or spoked? There is much variety!

23:14 Dec 17, 2015 

Did you post the wrong link? The light on that web page seems to bear no relation to your question.