conciergerie

English translation: caretaker's room / porter's lodge

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French term or phrase:	conciergerie
English translation:	caretaker's room / porter's lodge
Entered by:	B D Finch

11:47 Mar 4, 2017

French to English translations [Non-PRO]
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French term or phrase: conciergerie

Hi,

I'm translating a document about a Jewish family who escapes from Nazi Poland using the sewer system. The sewage workers let the family rest in a "conciergerie" which the author has told me represents a room at the entrance of the sewage workers' building where the workers would leave their tools and also sit down and have a coffee between shifts." I don't think it's exactly a store room, nor a break room. Any insight would be helpful!

Thanks.

Kaplana1
United States

caretaker's room/lodge

Explanation:
hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/docs/SYP000038680001.pdf
machine and went into the caretaker's room and sat down with our drinks. After about five minutes and myself left the caretaker's office, went back down the ...

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/lodgenoun.
1A small house at the gates of a park or in the grounds of a large house, occupied by a gatekeeper, gardener, or other employee. 'It stood in its own park, with a lodge and a drive, partly to give privacy, partly to impress or even overawe visitors.'

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A concierge is more or less equivalent to a caretaker.

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http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais-anglais/concie...
"concierge
... [gardien - d'immeuble] caretaker, janitor (US) [ - d'hôtel] porter (UK), receptionist"

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1...
... Works (former Carpet Manufacturing Company) II Carpet making factory. ... 8-bay yarn stores, entrance gateway and caretaker's lodge on the NE comer.

Alternative: porter's lodge

https://www.architecture.com/...hostels...factory...porters.... hostels for war workers at the Royal Ordnance Factory, Swynnerton, Stafford: the porter's lodge and bus shelter at the entrance to the Raleigh Hall site.

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broadbottomvillage.com/old/history%201805.htm... ago a contented happy race of factory operatives earning good wages…' ... The mill owners built themselves grand new houses, near or very near their works. ... also a neat porter's lodge on the approach from the mills, and the high road, ...

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Just to prove to Daryo and anyone else who doubts it that Polish factories had/have porter's lodges:

journals.bg.agh.edu.pl/MINING/2012.36.2/mining.2012.36.2.181.pdf
"Fig. 3. Gorlice. GLINIK drilling tool factory. a) The roofing of the main porter’s lodge is of the 1960s; the birch trees are in accord with the architecture, b) The hall of mechanical department with an office wing; cooling towers in the background, 1960s. Photo: J.K. Lenartowicz, 2011."

Selected response from:

B D Finch
France
Local time: 12:37

Grading comment

Thanks to everyone who gave their input! Since it was still somewhat unclear, I described the location rather than translating the term directly.
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4 +5

caretaker's room/lodge

B D Finch

Warehouse

Chakib Roula

Discussion entries: 1

Answers

9 mins confidence:

Warehouse

Explanation:
IMHO.

Chakib Roula
Algeria
Local time: 11:37
Works in field
Native speaker of:

Arabic,

French
PRO pts in category: 14

27 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +5

caretaker's room/lodge

B D Finch
France
Local time: 12:37
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 915

Grading comment

Thanks to everyone who gave their input! Since it was still somewhat unclear, I described the location rather than translating the term directly.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

sporran: or janitor's lodge

7 mins

-> Thanks. Yes "janitor" for EN-US.

agree

Azhar Zafar

15 mins

-> Thanks Azhar

agree

Nathalie Stewart

16 mins

-> Thanks Nathalie

agree

Mair A-W (PhD)

1 hr

-> Thanks Mair

agree

Clive Phillips: Yes. As you suggest, porter's lodge would also do.

10 hrs

-> Thanks Clive

agree

Nikki Scott-Despaigne

14 hrs

-> Thanks Nikki

disagree

Daryo: makes about as much sense as "warehouse" // the Polish name for this room may well have been translated as "la conciergerie" but I can't see any mention of any kind of "concierge" in this text!

23 hrs

-> This is a French to English question, not Polish to English. It makes perfect sense to have a porter's lodge at a sewage works and for workers to leave their tools and have tea there.

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