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Cotisations professionnelles

English translation: Dues to professional associations/Professional organization dues

18:31 May 15, 2019
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Accounting / Income Statement
French term or phrase: Cotisations professionnelles
Context:

"Cotisations professionnelles"are distinct from "honoraires"

- Professional contribution ?
Yves Barry Ben
France
Local time: 18:12
English translation:Dues to professional associations/Professional organization dues
Explanation:
Cotisations professionnelles/dues to professional associations means money that professionals (lawyers, accountants, doctors, architects etc. etc.) pay to the professional association through which they either (1) are licensed or otherwise legitimized or allowed to practice, and/or (2) receive continuing professional education credits (most professionals -- teachers, lawyers, nurses, etc. etc. -- are required to take a certain number of classes a year to stay up to date and maintain licensure, and professional organizations provide such classes).

IOW this is money that a professional (lawyer, etc.) pays at regular intervals (usually annually) in order to be allowed to continue practicing as a professional. It's totally different than honoraires, which are the fees that you pay to a professional when you hire them to do work for you.

Here's an example in France (for accountants): http://www.oec-paris.fr/devenir-expert-comptable/sinscrire-l...

And a definition: https://www.lextenso.fr/ouvrage/9782856233306-345

You could say any of the following:
Dues to professional associations
Professional organization dues
Professional dues
Professional organization membership fees


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Eliza Hall
United States
Local time: 12:12
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Summary of answers provided
5Dues to professional associations/Professional organization dues
Eliza Hall
4(on a/cs) Professional subscriptions
Adrian MM.
4 -2professional fees
Francois Boye
2 -1union (membership) fees
Ana Vozone
Summary of reference entries provided
Professional dues, subscriptions
philgoddard

Discussion entries: 1





  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): -1
union (membership) fees


Explanation:
https://www.google.com/search?q="union membership fees"&oq="...

http://www.cibtp-idf.fr/accueil/entreprises/les-cotisations/...

Ana Vozone
Local time: 17:12
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 9

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: No, not just unions. For example, a ProZ membership would be a "cotisation".
2 mins
  -> You are right, I meant to put Union within brackets, not "membership".
neutral  writeaway: wherever do you get unions from??
2 hrs
  -> Pls see my comment above re the reference I posted with my answer.
disagree  Eliza Hall: No, this is too narrow. Phil Goddard is right. But Writeaway, she gets unions from syndicats professionels. It's logical; it's just too narrow.
19 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
professional fees


Explanation:
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/deduct-dues-professional-org...

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 12:12
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 150

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  philgoddard: No, that would be things like lawyers' and accountants' fees. // Yes, and it says dues.
1 hr
  -> did you read my attachment?
disagree  Eliza Hall: I'm with Phil Goddard on this. "Professional fees" means fees that you pay to a professional, such as an accountant or lawyer ("honoraires"). François, the link you posted refers to "dues paid to a professional organization" -- not the same thing.
13 hrs
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Dues to professional associations/Professional organization dues


Explanation:
Cotisations professionnelles/dues to professional associations means money that professionals (lawyers, accountants, doctors, architects etc. etc.) pay to the professional association through which they either (1) are licensed or otherwise legitimized or allowed to practice, and/or (2) receive continuing professional education credits (most professionals -- teachers, lawyers, nurses, etc. etc. -- are required to take a certain number of classes a year to stay up to date and maintain licensure, and professional organizations provide such classes).

IOW this is money that a professional (lawyer, etc.) pays at regular intervals (usually annually) in order to be allowed to continue practicing as a professional. It's totally different than honoraires, which are the fees that you pay to a professional when you hire them to do work for you.

Here's an example in France (for accountants): http://www.oec-paris.fr/devenir-expert-comptable/sinscrire-l...

And a definition: https://www.lextenso.fr/ouvrage/9782856233306-345

You could say any of the following:
Dues to professional associations
Professional organization dues
Professional dues
Professional organization membership fees




Eliza Hall
United States
Local time: 12:12
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
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1 day 13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
(on a/cs) Professional subscriptions


Explanation:
Looks like I have cribbed this answer from Phil G's ref. but my target term is narrower and what my UK accountants traditionally use on sets of accounts and income statements.






Example sentence(s):
  • You can claim tax relief on fees or subscriptions you pay to approved professional organisations - but only if you must have membership or it relates to your job.

    Reference: http://eng.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/21594424-cotis...
    Reference: http://www.gov.uk/tax-relief-for-employees/professional-fees...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 41
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Reference comments


11 mins peer agreement (net): +3
Reference: Professional dues, subscriptions

Reference information:
There are several entries in the glossary already - please check this before posting questions.
http://www.proz.com/personal-glossaries/entry/1609263-cotisa...

philgoddard
United States
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 89

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Julie Barber
18 mins
agree  Simon Charass
59 mins
agree  Louise TAYLOR: Agreed.
12 hrs
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