غیب الغیب

13:01 Apr 15, 2013
Persian (Farsi) to English translations [PRO]
Religion / Sufism
Persian (Farsi) term or phrase: غیب الغیب
What in your opinion is the best expression for the term in English?
Ramesh Bhatt
Nepal
Local time: 21:11


Summary of answers provided
5 +1Absolute Unseen
Mina Ahmadi
5The unseen world
Zeynab Tajik
5Unseen
Mohammad Ali Omrani
5the Unknown of the Unknown
Masoud KL
4secret of unseen/unknown
Mahdieh Kandoei


  

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The unseen world


Explanation:
http://www.google.fr/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q="The Unseen Wor...

Zeynab Tajik
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Unseen


Explanation:



    Reference: http://www.5jle.com/vb/f2/t26396.html
Mohammad Ali Omrani
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secret of unseen/unknown


Explanation:
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در دیدگاه اهل معرفت ذات خداوند احدیّت چون وجودِ نامتناهی بوده، خالی از هر نوع تجلّی و ظهوری است که به آن "غیب الغیب" گویند؛ اما زمانیکه در رتبه ی متأخّری بوسیله ی کمالی از کمالات متعیّن شود، به این ذات متعیّن، اسم گویند.

Mahdieh Kandoei
United States
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50 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
the Unknown of the Unknown


Explanation:
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    Reference: http://www.freewebs.com/aqdas2/index.htm
Masoud KL
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25 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Absolute Unseen


Explanation:
from first reference:
*اولين وبرترين عالم از عوالم خمسه عالم لاهوت است وآنگونه که در احاديث آمده به دليل خواست واراده خدا برای شناخته شدن (عرفان) ودرنتيجۀ تجلی خداوند برخودش پديد آمده است . خداوند نور تجلی ذاتش را مظهر وجود خود قرارداده یعنی وجود خدا که به زبان عرفا و فلاسفه "غیب مطلق" یا " غیب الغیب" است بوسیله نور ذاتش ظهور می یابد.

from second reference:
* غیب الغیب

در تعبیر قرآنی، شب و روز، آفریده های الهی هستند؛ از این رو شب نیز از وجود، بهره برده است و از عدم و عدمیات نیست؛ چنان که از نظر قرآن، مرگ و زندگی نیز این گونه است. بر این اساس می توان گفت که شب تجلیات همان مقام «هو» است که ظهور کلی غیب الغیب است. از آن جایی که برای غیب الغیب نامی نیست و هر عنوان و اسمی، آن را به ظهور نمی رساند می بایست به همان واژأ غیب الغیب برای اشاره به آن بسنده کرد.

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According to philosophers and mystics, the existence of God is absolutely unseen, He created the world to be known,therefore the manifestation of God upon Himself has happened. So the Absolutely unseen is manifested by glory (light) of Himself.


    Reference: http://www.centralclubs.com/topic-t57967.html
    Reference: http://shiaha.com/1388/11/%D9%86%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%B2%D9%87%D8%...
Mina Ahmadi
United States
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