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اورنگ‌زیب

English translation: "Beauty of the throne" the title of an Iranian king

14:26 Jun 23, 2009
Persian (Farsi) to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - History / Historical Names
Persian (Farsi) term or phrase: اورنگ‌زیب
Hi,

This is something that has intrigued me for months now. اورنگ is an old word for throne, isn't it? Pronounced "owrang" i.e. with long O, perhaps? I wonder if it has any connection with the word for colour (رنگ). Of course, the Hindustani pronuciation is somewhat different.

But what really fascinates me is the second part of the name, زیب. It's so similar to زیبا (beautiful) that there must be a connection; however, at least in the dictionaries I use, I find no trace of the word.

So, "Beauty of the throne", perhaps? Or maybe "Ornament of the throne"? "Jewel of the throne"?

Many thanks,

Simon

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اورنگ‌زیب

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurangzeb
SeiTT
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:08
English translation:"Beauty of the throne" the title of an Iranian king
Explanation:
اورنگ /owrang/ means "throne" and "زیب" as you yourself said, comes from زیبا which means "beautiful" and means "beauty". All in all, اورنگ زیب means "Beauty of the throne" and is the title of an Iranian king.

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Note added at 29 mins (2009-06-23 14:55:23 GMT)
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زیب is a noun and means "beauty / ornament" and "زیبا" is its adjective which means "beautiful / ornamented"
It costs to say that "زیب" as a noun is not used in modern Persian and "زیبایی" is used instead.
Old Persian: الماس را از برای زیب در تاج نهاده اند
Modern Persian: الماس را برای زیبایی روی تاج قرار داده اند/نهاده اند

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Note added at 35 mins (2009-06-23 15:01:53 GMT)
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اورنگ زیب
اورنگ‌زیب عالمگیر. (زادهٔ ۳ نوامبر ۱۶۱۸، درگذشتهٔ ۳ مارس ۱۷۰۷)، عنوان و لقب شاهزاده محی‌الدین محمد٬ ششمین امپراتور گورکانی هند بین سالهای ۱۶۵۸ (میلادی) تا ۱۷۰۷ (میلادی) و سومین پسر شاه‌جهان امپراتور دهلی بود. مادر ایرانی‌اش ارجمندبانو نام داشت که ملقب به ممتازمحل بود.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-23 15:41:29 GMT)
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زیب غزل کردم این سه بیت ملک را, تا غزلم صدر هر مراسله باشد
This is a بیت /beyt/ (distich) of a Persian poem in which the poet has used three distiches of another poet whose name is ملک )ملک الشعرا) and says that he has used them to BEAUTIFY his poem.
The translation of the first part is:
I have made these three distiches of Malek as the beauty of my ode.
Here, "زیب" means "beauty" as mentioned before.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-23 16:21:34 GMT)
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A phrase that I found now, is "تن زیب" which is a Persian clothes brand.
It means "body beautifier"
We say that "اورنگ زیب" also means "throne beautifier"

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-23 16:23:44 GMT)
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We can say that "اورنگ زیب" also means "throne beautifier"
Selected response from:

Salman Rostami
Canada
Local time: 02:08
Grading comment
many thanks splendid
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +6"Beauty of the throne" the title of an Iranian king
Salman Rostami
5Aurangzeb, befitting the throne/ the beauty of it
Ebrahim Golavar


  

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35 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Aurangzeb, befitting the throne/ the beauty of it


Explanation:
اورنگ Aurang/Orang A throne; wisdom, understanding; beauty,
اورنگزیب meaning "befitting the throne
Aurang means throne and Zaib meant beauty or ornament

Ebrahim Golavar
Native speaker of: Persian (Farsi)
PRO pts in category: 16
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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
"Beauty of the throne" the title of an Iranian king


Explanation:
اورنگ /owrang/ means "throne" and "زیب" as you yourself said, comes from زیبا which means "beautiful" and means "beauty". All in all, اورنگ زیب means "Beauty of the throne" and is the title of an Iranian king.

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Note added at 29 mins (2009-06-23 14:55:23 GMT)
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زیب is a noun and means "beauty / ornament" and "زیبا" is its adjective which means "beautiful / ornamented"
It costs to say that "زیب" as a noun is not used in modern Persian and "زیبایی" is used instead.
Old Persian: الماس را از برای زیب در تاج نهاده اند
Modern Persian: الماس را برای زیبایی روی تاج قرار داده اند/نهاده اند

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Note added at 35 mins (2009-06-23 15:01:53 GMT)
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اورنگ زیب
اورنگ‌زیب عالمگیر. (زادهٔ ۳ نوامبر ۱۶۱۸، درگذشتهٔ ۳ مارس ۱۷۰۷)، عنوان و لقب شاهزاده محی‌الدین محمد٬ ششمین امپراتور گورکانی هند بین سالهای ۱۶۵۸ (میلادی) تا ۱۷۰۷ (میلادی) و سومین پسر شاه‌جهان امپراتور دهلی بود. مادر ایرانی‌اش ارجمندبانو نام داشت که ملقب به ممتازمحل بود.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-23 15:41:29 GMT)
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زیب غزل کردم این سه بیت ملک را, تا غزلم صدر هر مراسله باشد
This is a بیت /beyt/ (distich) of a Persian poem in which the poet has used three distiches of another poet whose name is ملک )ملک الشعرا) and says that he has used them to BEAUTIFY his poem.
The translation of the first part is:
I have made these three distiches of Malek as the beauty of my ode.
Here, "زیب" means "beauty" as mentioned before.

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-23 16:21:34 GMT)
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A phrase that I found now, is "تن زیب" which is a Persian clothes brand.
It means "body beautifier"
We say that "اورنگ زیب" also means "throne beautifier"

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Note added at 1 hr (2009-06-23 16:23:44 GMT)
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We can say that "اورنگ زیب" also means "throne beautifier"

Salman Rostami
Canada
Local time: 02:08
Native speaker of: Native in Persian (Farsi)Persian (Farsi)
PRO pts in category: 16
Grading comment
many thanks splendid

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ryan Emami
6 hrs
  -> Thank you very much, hossein!
agree  Mahmoud Akbari
9 hrs
  -> Thank you very much, Mr Akbari!
agree  Mahmoud Farsiani: اورنگ زيب ( I have a friend in Pakistan embassy here with this name) can be a title like شوكت الدوله- منيرالسلطنه or عزت الملوك or many similar titles which were widely used during the reign of Ghajar dynasty in Iran.
23 hrs
  -> Definitely right! Thank you Sir!
agree  Fereidoon Keyvani
1 day 3 hrs
  -> Thank you Sir!
agree  Mohammad Reza Razaghi
1 day 17 hrs
  -> Thank you very much!
agree  Ali Beikian
5 days
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