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make meat dishes go further

English translation: it means that you can use less meat or

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English term or phrase:make meat dishes go further
Selected answer:it means that you can use less meat or
Entered by: Rahi Moosavi

14:21 Dec 23, 2006
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Nutrition
English term or phrase: make meat dishes go further
"As well as being wholesome foods in themselves, lentils, beans or tofu can be used to make meat dishes go further"

What exactly does this "make meat dishes go further" mean? the docmunet was talking about consuming less meat up to this point.
Rahi Moosavi
Canada
Local time: 07:36
it means that you can use less meat or
Explanation:
make greater quantities of the dish by adding the lentils, tofu, etc. to the dish
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Enza Longo
Canada
Local time: 07:36
Grading comment
Thanks to all
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +22it means that you can use less meat or
Enza Longo
3 +2a possible clarification - not for points
Caryl Swift
3 -2to make the dishes give you more nutrition + extend the time before you become hungry again
Alexander Demyanov


  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +22
it means that you can use less meat or


Explanation:
make greater quantities of the dish by adding the lentils, tofu, etc. to the dish

Enza Longo
Canada
Local time: 07:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks to all

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mwananchi
3 mins
  -> thanks, Mwananchi!
agree  Shera Lyn Parpia
34 mins
  -> thanks, Shera Lyn!
agree  Richard Benham
41 mins
  -> thanks, Richard!
agree  William [Bill] Gray: Yes. It's cheaper to add lentils, beans or tofu instead of meat, and while their protein content will be different, they give you more food for less money!
56 mins
  -> thanks William - good explanation!
agree  Can Altinbay
57 mins
  -> thanks, Can!
agree  Kim Metzger: Like adding dry bread crumbs, eggs and bell pepper to hamburger to make a meatloaf. And topping it with catsup.
1 hr
  -> Thanks Kim - yes, same difference
agree  Dave Calderhead
1 hr
  -> thanks, Dave!
agree  DianaMoore: I considered them "healthy fillers" or even part-substitutes.
1 hr
  -> Thanks Diana - I try to use them as often as possible because of the health benefits, especially tofu
agree  RHELLER: of course, Enza, you understood that this means using 1 kg of meat for 6 people instead of 3
1 hr
  -> Hi Rita - it's definitely cheaper!
neutral  pidzej: that's what was probably meant but the question is not so much about the meat you have making more dishes - you already have meat dishes and said dishes with the added stuff are said to go further; poorly written input sentence in the first place IMO
2 hrs
  -> I'm not sure what your point is but I think it's been agreed by everyone that 'going further' in this case means getting a larger amount of food
agree  airmailrpl: - Richard Benham said it all.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, airmailrpl - yes, Richard did!
agree  Inge Dijkstra
2 hrs
  -> thanks, Inge!
agree  Alfa Trans (X)
2 hrs
  -> thanks, Marju!
agree  Nedra Rivera Huntington
3 hrs
  -> thanks,nedra!
agree  avsie (X)
3 hrs
  -> thanks, Marie-Claude!
neutral  Alexander Demyanov: So? Still, it's absolutely not about using less meat. It's about improving dishes with additions//By the original, consume less meat by eating meat dishes less often, not by puting less meat//Why don't you give up on re-writing the original?
4 hrs
  -> a meat dish is 'essentially' made up of meat but whether it be meat alone or otherwise the question is in regards to 'go further'/I've got to give you an 'A' for perseverance but this is where I stop 'cause I see you're just not getting it!
agree  Will Matter
6 hrs
  -> thanks, willmatter!
agree  cmwilliams (X)
6 hrs
  -> thank you, cmwilliams!
agree  vixen
7 hrs
  -> thanks, vixen!
agree  Deborah Workman: I second that -- or eighteenth it!
10 hrs
  -> Thanks Deborah!
agree  Hamid Sadeghieh
1 day 1 hr
agree  jccantrell: Making them go further means that they can feed more people, kind of like putting an extra cup of water in the soup when an unexpected guest arrives.
1 day 3 hrs
agree  Michael Barnett
1 day 5 hrs
agree  ErichEko ⟹⭐
1 day 10 hrs
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
a possible clarification - not for points


Explanation:
Generally speaking 'to make something go further' means to make something do more than it would normally be expected to.

For instance, if you don't have much money (who does?), then you can make your money go further by, for example, shopping in the market just before it closes on the last working day of the week and buying produce which is being sold cheaper - and so on.

http://tinyurl.com/smd32

You can also make something go further by adding to it, or diluting it. So, for example, a none-too-honest hairdresser who has a bottle of shampoo which is enough for 20 hairwashes might add water to it and have enough for 30 hairwashes.

So, in general terms, 'to make something go further' means 'to eke something out':

http://tinyurl.com/yjffzw

or 'to stretch' it:

http://tinyurl.com/y42jes (definitions 8a and 8b).

In the case of your question, it's rather ambigious - partly because you've only given us the one sentence - plus telling us that the text so far talks about eating less meat.

I wonder if what the writer is saying is this? If you wish to use meat, for example for the taste, you can still manage to eat less of it. You can create dishes in which you use some meat for the tase - but, for instance, you could use 1 portion of meat and 'stretch it' to become a four-portion meal by adding other protein-rich foods such as legumes or tofu.

In that way, you have made the meat 'go further' - do more than it would normally - by creating four portions from one. You have also ensured that one portion contains less meat, but is no less nutritious in terms of protein. What's more, if you only wanted to make one portion, then you would use less meat. And whether you make one portion or four portions (or 8 or whatever), you are eating less meat.



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Note added at 5 hrs (2006-12-23 19:41:06 GMT)
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'....ambiguous....' - sorry about the typo

Caryl Swift
Poland
Local time: 13:36
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Alexander Demyanov: That would be a wonderful explanation if you quoted the original correctly. You say "In that way, you made the meat...", while the original talks about "meat dishes". That is my point that you may be missing.
13 mins
  -> Alexander,my point,which you may be missing,is that a meat dish is a dish with meat in it.If you make the meat dish go further,you make the dish go further.In the context,there is a dish with meat in it where the meat gives more portions than 'normal'.
agree  Will Matter
1 hr
  -> Thank you! Wesołych Świąt :-)
agree  cmwilliams (X)
1 hr
  -> Thank you :-)
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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
to make the dishes give you more nutrition + extend the time before you become hungry again


Explanation:
i.e. the dishes will make you more "full"

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Note added at 8 hrs (2006-12-23 22:48:52 GMT)
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It's possible that it's not about a diner more full. However, if one is to assume that the author knows what he/she is writing, it's about making each individual dish by making it a "bigger meal", i.e. more nutritious, and not about "using less meat".

Alexander Demyanov
Local time: 07:36
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Enza Longo: go further means to extend, althoughI don't dispute the nutritional value of these products // I think you're making this a lot more complicated than it really is
10 mins
  -> Thanks, Enza. I guess you saw my comment on your suggested interpretation.
disagree  Richard Benham: No, it definitely means that you get a larger amount of food (can feed more people) with a given amount of meat.
22 mins
  -> You may be right. Thank you//On 2nd thought, it's unlikely that you are correct. They oridinal doesn't talk about amount of meat but rather about "dishes". Not "making more dishes" but making dishes better.
neutral  RHELLER: has nothing to do with extending time
1 hr
  -> You may be right. Thank you//Actually, I think you are wrong. It has to do w/time. You consume less meat by eating it less often, becaus each meal has improved nutr. value.
disagree  airmailrpl: Richard Benham nailed it
2 hrs
  -> You both may be right here. Thank you.//Actually, I have to take that back. See my response to Richard.
agree  pidzej: that's what it says (but not what it was meant to mean)
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, pidzej.
neutral  Caryl Swift: To make something go further means to make it do more than expected e.g.an amount of meat that normally serves 1 person can serve more people without losing nutritional value//Please read my comment carefully and see my not-for-points answer below :-)
4 hrs
  -> You are missing how the word "dishes" is used in the original. It's not "make a kilo of meat go further", it's "make dishes go further".
disagree  cmwilliams (X): agree with Richard and Caryl on this one. If you add lentils or beans to a meat dish, such as a casserole/stew, the meat will go further because there will be a larger quantity of food.
6 hrs
  -> And how is that not "the dishes will give more nutrition"++?
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