terms and conditions

English translation: there seems to be a difference ....

23:53 Nov 27, 2004
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Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
English term or phrase: terms and conditions
"Terms and conditions of sale, terms and conditions of business..."

I have never managed to figure out what the difference is between the terms and the conditions.
Jonathan Widell
Canada
Local time: 16:20
Selected answer:there seems to be a difference ....
Explanation:
"....of the difference between “terms” and
“conditions”.
They have different meanings and
consequences. In the case of a condition,
the existence of a contract or a contractual
obligation is subject to the fulfilment thereof.
The breach of a contractual term does not by
itself terminate a contract.
A contractual term can be enforced; on the
other hand no action can be taken to enforce
performance of a condition although other
legal consequences may arise if a party to a
contract purposely frustrates the fulfillment
of the condition.
A condition may be suspensive or resolutive.
It may also be positive or negative. Each
brings about completely different
consequences."
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seaMount
Local time: 22:20
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What a fascinating answer! One way to "make sense" of it is to think of a condition. For instance, anyone who signs the contract has to be at least 18 years old. If somebody is not at least 18 years old, the contract is not valid, because "the existence of a contract...is subject to the fulfilment thereof." Of course, such a condition is not enforceable, because nobody can be made 18 years old, if he is not. On the other hand, a term spells out the rights and obligations of each party. It is enforceable (that is why people make a contract in the first place). The breach of a term does not automatically terminate the contract, because there are many other ways to make the other party to carry out his obligations. Thanks to all.
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5 +1there is no difference but it is a legal language formality...
Alejandra Hozikian
5 +1pl see explanation
Asghar Bhatti
4 +1there seems to be a difference ....
seaMount
3Possible explanation
Kim Metzger


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there is no difference but it is a legal language formality...


Explanation:
the idea is to aviod using them, whenever they mean the same, however, they are used by proffesionals of law in order to make the language more pompous.

Alejandra Hozikian
Argentina
Local time: 17:20
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Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

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agree  Olga B
16 hrs
  -> Thank you, Olga!
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Possible explanation


Explanation:
Excellent question. I've wondered about that myself. I think the difference is term = provision, i.e. a stipulation, requirement and condition = what will occur if certain circumstances arise. For example, if interest rates increase so will the rent or price, etc. But Alejandra may also be right that they are synonymous. English legal language is full of redundancies: null and void, final and conclusive, without let or hindrance.

Term : a word, phrase, or provision of import esp. in determining the nature and scope of an agreement usu. used in pl. <the ~s of the contract>

Condition: an uncertain future act or event whose occurrence or nonoccurrence determines the rights or obligations of a party under a legal instrument and esp. a contract
also
: a clause in the instrument describing the act or event and its effect

http://www.lawyers.com/legal_topics/glossary/search/profile/...


Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 14:20
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
there seems to be a difference ....


Explanation:
"....of the difference between “terms” and
“conditions”.
They have different meanings and
consequences. In the case of a condition,
the existence of a contract or a contractual
obligation is subject to the fulfilment thereof.
The breach of a contractual term does not by
itself terminate a contract.
A contractual term can be enforced; on the
other hand no action can be taken to enforce
performance of a condition although other
legal consequences may arise if a party to a
contract purposely frustrates the fulfillment
of the condition.
A condition may be suspensive or resolutive.
It may also be positive or negative. Each
brings about completely different
consequences."



    www.moss-morris.co.za/ law_news/Law%20News%20(2000-03).pdf
seaMount
Local time: 22:20
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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What a fascinating answer! One way to "make sense" of it is to think of a condition. For instance, anyone who signs the contract has to be at least 18 years old. If somebody is not at least 18 years old, the contract is not valid, because "the existence of a contract...is subject to the fulfilment thereof." Of course, such a condition is not enforceable, because nobody can be made 18 years old, if he is not. On the other hand, a term spells out the rights and obligations of each party. It is enforceable (that is why people make a contract in the first place). The breach of a term does not automatically terminate the contract, because there are many other ways to make the other party to carry out his obligations. Thanks to all.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tahir: Terms" can specify such details as price, dates, delivery, rights, etc. "Condition" = a future and uncertain event upon the happening of which is made to depened the existence of an obligation, or that which subordinates the existence of liability under a
1 day 9 hrs
  -> Tahir, thanks also for the addition!
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pl see explanation


Explanation:
Terms:Agreement between two or more parties that creates for each party a duty to do something (e.g., to provide goods at a certain price according to a specified schedule) or a duty not to do something (e.g., to divulge an employer's trade secrets or financial status to third parties).
Condition:Condition:in logic, a stipulation, or provision, that needs to be satisfied; also, something that must exist or be the case or happen in order for something else to do so (as in “the will to live is a condition for survival”).
Parties are free to regulate their relations by contract, within limits set by express statutory prohibitions and by good morals. Strict limits are set to eliminate fraudulent practices by one of the contracting parties. In the case of a valid contract, the parties must observe the requirements of good faith, with ordinary usage taken into consideration.
A party's failure to honour a contract allows the other party or parties to bring an action for damages in a court of law, though arbitration may also be pursued. In order to be valid, a contract must be entered into both willingly and freely. A contract that violates this principle, including one made with a legal minor or a person deemed mentally incompetent, may be declared unenforceable by a court of law. A contract also must have a lawful objective

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Note added at 1 day 29 mins (2004-11-29 00:23:05 GMT)
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Violation of certain terms does not ipso facto give right to terminate the contract.

Asghar Bhatti
United States
Local time: 16:20
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in UrduUrdu, Native in PunjabiPunjabi

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tahir: Terms" can specify such details as price, dates, delivery, rights, etc. "Condition" = a future and uncertain event upon the happening of which is made to depened the existence of an obligation, or that which subordinates the existence of liability under a
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